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July 30, 2002  |  Paul Thurrott  |  Getting Connected
Copying Analog Video to the PC, the Hard Way (Part One)

Thanks largely to research I've been doing for future Connected Home EXPRESS columns, I've spent a lot of time during the past several weeks working on a variety of digital media-related tasks. For example, I've been connecting a component cassette player to the PC through the sound card's line-in port and through various USB devices, attempting to figure out which method results in the best-sounding MP3 files. I hope to have the results ready soon, but an even more time-consuming task has me almost completely flummoxed this week.

Like many people, I have a small library of home movies. I used a low-end 8mm (analog) camcorder to create mine, and although I'd copied several of them to the PC some time ago, I wanted to make sure that the whole collection was digitally archived. But I had one problem: The camcorder I'd used to make the movies has gone belly-up, refusing even to load tape cartridges. So, although I had the necessary hardware to copy the video onto my PC, the lack of a working camera stymied my plans. Most other people, however, probably don't have high-quality analog video-to-PC hardware. So the problem remained the same for me as it does for most people: How does one get analog video into the PC without purchasing any new hardware?

I decided to pay a local camera company to copy the contents of the tapes to DVD. I had only four video tapes, so I figured the cost would be minimal, though I had no way of checking each tape to see how much material was on it. In the end, copying the more than 3 hours of video to two DVDs cost about $100, which seemed a bit steep, but these videos document cherished memories, such as my son's first unassisted steps.

When I got the DVDs home, I immediately popped them into the DVD player attached to my TV to see how they came out. The video quality was predictably middling, given the source, but acceptable. The audio seemed a bit lower than usual, but I figured I could correct that during the conversion process. My next task was to get the DVD video onto my PC digitally.

I could take one of three basic approaches. The best approach, of course, would be to find some PC or Macintosh application that would convert the DVD video directly into AVI or QuickTime format (or maybe MPEG-2 format, if necessary), and I resolved to find such an application. Or, I could use my digital camcorder's analog video pass-through capabilities, which capture the video through FireWire and Windows Movie Maker—I'd never tried that approach before, but it seemed like a decent solution. But should those approaches fail, I would simply attach the component DVD player to my PC through the analog connectors on my Dazzle Digital Video Creator II device (see first URL below). This option would definitely work, but it would add the undesirable analog-conversion step, which could degrade the video quality further. I would use this option only as a failsafe plan.

First, I needed to do some research. I discovered that video DVDs use a standard directory structure, which includes a VIDEO_TS directory in its root. (You can see this directory structure by inserting a DVD into your Windows PC, opening My Computer, right-clicking the DVD, and choosing Open.) This folder contains several files, including the Video Object (VOB) files that contain the actual movies. For example, one of the DVDs I got back from the camera store included the following files:

video_ts.vob (36KB) - the menu system video
vts_01_1.vob (706MB) - first video, chapter 1
vts_02_1.vob (1GB) - second video, chapter 1
vts_02_2.vob (1GB) - second video, chapter 2
vts_02_3.vob (900MB) - second video, chapter 3

Because DVD movies are in MPEG-2 format, I figured that the VOB files were, in essence, MPEG-2 files. (Interestingly, you can play them directly in a Windows-based DVD player application such as CyberLink PowerDVD XP—see the second URL below.) However, I also thought that VOB files must be able to encrypt their contents in some fashion: Encryption could prevent pirates from easily copying copyrighted DVD movies. I discovered, however, that DVDs protect against piracy through a variety of other means, including Content Scrambling System (CSS) technology for digital copy protection, and region coding, which prevents movies aimed at one market (e.g., Japan) from being played in another (e.g., North America).

Obviously, copy protection wasn't a concern with my home movies. The task at hand was figuring out how to convert VOB files into a format I could work with. First, I attempted to find a decent VOB-to-AVI conversion application. The most promising of these, an application called DVD2AVI (see the third URL below), seemed to work well; however, after the lengthy conversion process, I discovered that the resulting AVI contained no sound. The application offered a separate audio conversion, with Wave (.wav) file output capabilities. That conversion would work, but using it is probably beyond the average user's skill set, so that's an approach I'll look into later.

After failing miserably with AVI, I tried looking for a VOB-to-MPEG-2 conversion application; after all, MPEG-2 is VOB's native format. The excellent TSUNAMI MPeG Encoder (TMPGEnc—see fourth URL below) offered not only MPEG-2 conversion capabilities but also the ability to raise the sound output in the resulting file. However, because the original audio track was monophonic, it played through only the left speaker, leading me to wonder whether a properly wired analog import wasn't my best bet. Also, the previously free TMPGEnc is now shareware ($50), and the resulting video is rather choppy and pixilated in places—probably because of MPEG-2's rather poor encoding capabilities.

So how did I eventually get this to work? Unfortunately, I'm out of space, so I'll conclude this exploration of importing DVD video next week.

Dazzle's Digital Video Creator II

CyberLink PowerDVD XP

DVD2AVI

TMPG Enc NET



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Hello, My name is Andrew Curtis and I'm am currently going through the research process of figuring out how to convert video analogue into digital media. I am working as a volunteer for someone who directs the online masters program at Eastern Virgina Medical School. We have many video lectures that we would like to be available on Blackboard. The problem we run into is file capacity. Finding a program and/or software to condense our videos the most is of utmost importance, but we would also like to have high quality picture and sound. The students viewing these videos are from all over and have different computer capabilities. I have found hope in this article that we will be able to find the right software to do the job. Thanks

Andrew Curtis -July 16, 2004



Great article. I'm just after a basic way of copying from analogue video recorder to pc?

steve -July 20, 2004



i have avermedia dvd ezmaker and i can not get it to capture video playing in my vhs recorder what shall i do frank

frank -August 15, 2004



Many thanks for a very interesting and informative article. I am in the process of switching from analogue to digital and I do not know where to start ! Where is your next article?

Alex Tonna -October 21, 2004



It is a great article. I have been using a Snazzi analogue to digital converter card for the past 2 years. For the last one month it shows the movie in the PC which i would later burn it to the CD but when i press record on the snazzi software( because i should save it as a file before i burn it) the picture goes off but the audio stays .I have tried reinstalling windows XP. Can somebody help me with my problem.

John -November 20, 2004



Thank You for your article, and I'm also interested where the 'next week's article' could be found. I have quite a few movies on vcr tapes that I'd like to upload to my pc, edit and even change sounds....I have no idea what to do. I do have a sound card with a 'cable' connection...guess I was wondering what type of file format dvd players use and you've answered that question for me...Thanks....however, I still can't get my movies to upload, HELP!!!!

A response from you at your earliest convenience would be greatly appreciated.

Lorena -July 7, 2005



Interesting article. I´ve had a lot of problem with this to. A lot of money and time has been vasted on trying to convert my homevideos on PC, without succes. After 5 hours work, the result was a 30 minutes film with bad quality. The best way of converting video from analogue to digital is probably to buy a videokamera that can convert the signals to digital and record it on a dvd-recorder or a computer. Canon MVX20i and MVX25i has this technology.

Per-Åke Augusti 8 2005

Per-Ake Ericsson -August 9, 2005



Hello, I'm not sure if this will work...but, I have several Hi-8 tapes recorded on a small Sony handi-cam. I would like to transfer them to my PC with 2000pro. The cameras output is RCA. Can anone tell me the type of PCI card I would need to import this to the Hard Drive? Thanks

Cliff Christian -April 14, 2007



HONESTECH TVR 2.0 is the card i am currently using to back up all my old HI8 tapes onto PC before they start to die. The card is readily available on ebay and quite cheaply. So far im very happy with the results, but currently i am unsure which is the best format to use (this is selectable on TVR) which would be a good compromise between video quality and file size.

soundmanjim -June 24, 2007



Have you tried playing your video 8 tapes through a DVD recorder and recording it on DVD? You can then use software downloaded from the internet to edit these files. See the suggestion by Per-Ake Ericsson -August 9, 2005

Charles Remedios -July 16, 2007



i dont like it it is stupid haha i dont care

JJ. hancock -November 14, 2008



i am ruban; iam using honestech tvr i recorded the movie after replay it icant hear sound but lively ican haer sound

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