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June 29, 2005  |  Paul Thurrott  |  Getting Connected
Ubuntu Linux: Power for the People

The Zulu word ubuntu roughly translates to "community" or "humanity to others," but a more accurate meaning is, "I am because we are; we are because I am." Not coincidentally, the Linux distribution Ubuntu seeks to bring this philosophy of selflessness to software development. To me, it best encapsulates what's wonderful about open-source software (OSS) development and seems to rise above the politics that often tarnish that movement. Ubuntu is my favorite Linux distribution, and if you're curious about life on the Other Side, I can't think of a better place to start.

As I wrote in Alt.Windows, Part 2: Windows Alternatives You Should Consider (March 30), Linux might be a bit untamed when compared with commercial offerings such as Windows and Macintosh OS X, but it's getting better. In some ways, the biggest obstacle that's holding Linux back is choice: There are so many Linux distributions to choose from, it's hard to know where to begin.

On a similar note, a few years ago, most Linux distributions were all about heft: The distribution makers threw in every conceivable option, utility, and application, almost as if to silence critics who might complain about the lack of available software for the system. However, that approach leads to a complicated OS. Therefore, modern Linux distributions such as Ubuntu are taking a different tact. Instead of giving you everything but the kitchen sink, Ubuntu delivers only the very best utilities and applications, and rarely will you find two or more instances of the same type of application.

Ubuntu is based on the GNOME desktop environment, which happens to be my favorite. (The other major Linux desktop environment, KDE, is too flashy for my tastes.) In Ubuntu 5.04, the latest version as of this writing, GNOME takes on a Mac-like aura, with a main system menu that's always available on the top of the screen. And you'll find precious few of those busy UI bits.

The bundled applications are excellent and well chosen. Ubuntu 5.04 includes the Evolution email client and Firefox Web browser, the OpenOffice.org 1.1.3 office-productivity suite, various multimedia applications, and a full suite of accessories, small games, and system-configuration utilities. When you consider that many, many computer users really just need an email client, Web browser, and maybe a word processor, you can see how a no-cost solution such as Linux starts to make sense. Now, couple those basic needs with the uncluttered simplicity of the Ubuntu Linux UI, and you've got a winner.

Because Ubuntu is based on the well-regarded Debian Linux distribution, it uses that system's Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) software-update technology to keep the system up-to-date. And because it's Linux, the system is secure out of the box (well, there's no real box), requiring you to create a normal user account and supply the password to an admin-level account whenever you attempt to make a change to the system.

Ubuntu is a Linux distribution aimed at real human beings, and as such it's appropriate for just about any computer user. You might need a more technical person to help you set it up, but once you get up and running in Ubuntu, you'll feel right at home.

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I stumbled unto them from a link and was surprised when I received my CD. It was my 1st experience with Linux and was very easy. I currently use the KDE version, Kubuntu v5.04. Though I don't know jack about linux, (I couldn't even install Mozilla after downloading it, I play with it daily. Maybe I'll see enough value to buy a book on Linux.

John -June 29, 2005



"I couldn't even install Mozilla after downloading it"

The previous poster's comments is one of the major reasons why Linux isn't going anywhere fast. Why must installing a program require a PHD in Linux? It should be as easy as Windows to do these things. Mind you, I dislike Microsoft and Windows too, but until something really useful and as easy to use comes along AND supports ALL the applications I use, not just the mainstream ones I don't, I doubt I'll be switching OSes.

rick -June 29, 2005



Installing linux programs can be a pain but thats not a reason Linux isnt going anywhere. I am fairly new to Linux (started messing with it a year ago on and off) and i have seen improvements to the installations. Before you were forced to compile source code, when now with SuSE i can find a prepackaged RPM and have an almost as easy the double click install of windows. While finding dependencies and finding distro compatable RPM's is still a pain, it is still making strides. Just something to keep in mind.(Also i have heard about these APT's, i want to try a hand at that soon)

pavan -June 29, 2005



I'm going to look into Ubuntu Linux. A few weeks ago, I decided to give Linux another try. I've found that the installers are better now, and APT makes package management a breeze. But I still can't get 3D graphics to run well. ATI has recently released an installer to make the driver upgrade process smoother, and that seemed to get the driver installed, but graphics performance remains in the crapper. To me, this is what's holding Linux back. I'm ready to use Linux for work, but we've got a long way to go before I'll be using it for playtime. (And I'm SO ready for that!)

Dirk -June 29, 2005



Actually, Installing software in Linux is easier than you think. The first poster's comment doesn't show how difficult it is to install software under Linux, just that they neglected to look around more. That is understandable, being new to the OS. The first mistake Windows users make when trying Linux is in downloading software. DON'T DO IT! Especially as a new user, all the software you use should come directly from your distro. In Kubuntu, there is a program called Kynaptic, which connects you to the software mirrors on the internet. You search, click, install, uninstall all from the one program. You can update your entire OS and ALL the software on it with the click of the mouse! Personally, the first thing I would do using Kynaptic is install Synaptic, which is the default under Ubuntu, and should be under Kubuntu as well in my opinion. Keep in mind that ignorance isn't the fault of Linux. Patience and Study are the cure. There are several sites devoted to Ubuntu with lot's of help and support available. Linux really is easier, it just takes time to unlearn what Windows has taught you.

dingletec -June 29, 2005



What is the one most difficult issue that a new Linux user is faced with? Never mind the difference in the file system between Windows and Linux, undoubtedly the most daunting exercise for a new user is when they find a nice piece of software(SW) and they must decide which one of the 24 or so other files (dependencies) that come with it must be installed.

A new user being faced with this ugly task just throws his arms up in horror and gives up. The result is to turn back to what they know, and that is downloading one(1) file which after they run the desired application is installed on their "inferior" OS. But they don't give a damn that their PC runs a technically inferior OS for as long they can achieve what they want. Remember the majority of PC users require their OS to be as simple as pressing a button like on their mobile phone.

We who are seasoned Linux users can afford the luxury of downloading the source code in order to compile it and use the SW. I have installed Linux on many of my friends PCs and they all have run against this problem, the fact that almost every distro has to have installation SW specifically tailored.

Guys please do not destroy the opportunity to have Linux made easier than any other OS and be universally accepted as a desktop. We love Linux we have grown older with it and we wish to see it being on top of the heap. Please don't let Linux become the SONY as in the war between VHS and Beta (for the older of us who can remember what happened, there is no need for further explanation). Suffice to say that the technically superior product often fails to become the accepted choice of the masses.

I plea with all you Linux distro developers, for the interest of seeing Linux triumphing over other OS, you must leave aside the egotistical idiosyncrasies your system is empowered with (as far as the installation of SW is concerned) and try to collaborate and work with the other gifted developers, share your ideas and come up with a common and simple way for ordinary folks to be able to install and unistall new software(SW) EASILY.

Fotis Chronopoulos -June 29, 2005



But that is what Ubuntu (and other debian-based distros do). You do not have to make any decisions.

Select a package, and install it. If you are asked about recommended og suggested packages just press OK to use the default.

Niels Elgaard Larsen -June 30, 2005



Why would you want to install Mozilla when Mozilla firefox is installed by default on Ubuntu anyway!. Even if you need to install software, its not hard to use synaptic or type "sudo apt-get install Package". I'm sick of people comparing Linux to Windows, LINUX is not Windows and we dont aim to make it like windows. What a lot of people forget is they have been using windows for many years, then expect to pick up a new OS and use it as efficiently as Windows, it takes time folks. Last of all true Linux users use the OS because of ethical purposes, as they dont want to use propreity software, we want FREEDOM, to create, share and learn. Until you see this philosophical concept only then will you truly appreciate Linux. So please do us Linux enthusiasts a favour if you always compare to Windows well just use microsoft. We dont care!

L. Tambiah -June 30, 2005



All of the people commenting here on how "installing s/w packages is so difficult" have obviously not actually tried it on Ubuntu. It really is a point-and-click operation, and could hardly be simpler to accomplish. No decisions needed about prerequisites, or where to put things -- the package manager does it all for you, and just plain works.

To get started, run "synaptic". If that fails (Kubuntu doesn't include it by default for some peculiar reason), then try "kynaptic" instead. You can find these under the "System" sub-menu from the "start menu", or just run them directly from the Alt-F2 command prompt.

Cheers

Mark Lord -June 30, 2005



Yes, Ubuntu is really awesome, and yes, Linux needs to "improve". Example: my machine is a ASRock k7s41gx (SiS 741GX)+ Sempron 2600+ , everything was reconized according "Device Information" and worked well, but after look the xorg.conf (configuration file for Xorg window server) the used driver was "vesa". Manually changed to "sis" and works great. In this case, what is lacking ? A better integration between Xorg and HAL - or "udev" (well, in another machine with an nVidia card was recognized correctly... )??? Sorry i´m not a programmer and just inspecting. In another scenario, just for testing, Ubuntu works GREAT on a Toshiba notebook Satellite 2100CDS (K62-400; 96MB RAM; 10GB HD (several bad blocks); 2 MB video memory - 800x600/16bit, nice; PCMCIA ethernet cards worked fine too). Good job! Just to finish: Brazil 4 x 1 Argentina, what a beautifull game !!! Sorry for my poor English and best regards from São Paulo/Brazil!!! Edson

Edson Caetano -June 30, 2005



in ubuntu installing software is easy.

some different ways to do it. 1) open synaptic (it's in the applications menu somewhere) and select the program you want, either by searching or going through categories. then press install. 2) open a console and run "sudo apt-get install <the package you want>" -- apt-cache search <something like "browser"> will give you a list of what programs match your search criteria.

both ways will download all dependencies for you and will configure the program for you. synaptic is the default ubuntu option, it is based on apt-get. it is VERY EASY.

David -June 30, 2005



Everyone is criping about software installs. Hello, any one home??? This article is about Ubuntu, If installing ubuntu packages is harder than windoes you have never isntalled windows. I mean just click the add remove packages from the menu, there are a lot, click okay and your done. On windows, go find the packages download it, and hope the installer supports your version of windows (currently there are like 5 versions of Xp only 3 of which are mostly fully compatible), then run the installer, after isntaller is done delete the installer. Which sounds like more work?

I will grant you that windows has alot more easy ro find software out there, and if you are a serious computer gamer linux is real spare on offerings. But please do not confuse familiarity with easy of use. I use Linux and windows every day at work, both are easy for me. I try to work on a make and it is slow and painful. Not because the Mac is hard to use, but becuase I am condiotioned to the way Windows and Linux work, not to teh way a Mac works.

Evan Hisey -June 30, 2005



If you are new to Linux and you have problems with it, please don't attribute this to Linux and start giving your thoughts about it. If you say Linux is difficult, you really don't know any better. Yes, Linux WAS more complicated than Windows few years back, today, Linux is much easier than Windows. Have you tried installing Windows from scratch? If you did, you will know better. Like other posters said, Synaptic is as easy as 1,2,3. Windows has nothing like. It allows you to install/update/remove application a'la carte from a selection of thousands of applications. Next time you have a problem with Linux, don't say it is difficult, but rather say "I have a problem, how do I do this or that" and you will receive many solutions without embarrassing yourself. And before you know it, you will forget all about Windows.

Abe -June 30, 2005



Yes, with most Linux systems almost all software is installed from the repository maintained by your distro's provider. This is a huge Internet repository of software and to install a package is as simple as a few clicks of the mouse (it resolves all dependencies for you).

If you really want to, you can still download a binary package (a la Windows) and install that.

And if you're really keen, you can download source code and compile the software on your system.

However the benefits of package managers are that they make upgrades, uninstallation and managing dependencies totally automated.

Yes, it's actually simpler and safer than software installation on Windows!

Ashley Hooper -June 30, 2005



Linux is equal in useability as windows you just have to learn a different way of doing things the same way as if you were switching from windows to mac and once you do you get the benefits of almost no crashes no worrying about viruses and an OS that isnt a hard disk whore, i have a lot of computers with 20gb hdd and otherwise great specs and this is my main linux advantage

Mike Morely -June 30, 2005



It's amazing how off-base some of the above comments are -- these people have clearly never used Ubuntu, or probably any other GNU/Linux distribution in the last 5 years to be able to write such nonsense!

Synaptic is a graphical front-end to Ubuntu's package-manager (apt/dpkg). It is easily accessible from the System menu. To add software, just fire up Synaptic, do a text search for what you want (based on name and/or description, or browse the categories), click on a checkbox beside the program name, and hit the 'Apply' button. The software will then be downloaded, installed and configured automatically. That's ALL there is to it! If the program has dependencies on any other programs or libraries that are missing, these are automatically selected and installed also. Packages are pre-compiled, so there is no need to install from source-code. Ubuntu's software repositories give you access to a HUGE library of programs (about 10,000 or so, I think) to solve almost any sort of task, so you should be able to find what you need without ever using another system (though you can).

In short, any idiot should be able to install both Ubuntu itself, and any additional software very easily. It is far more point-and-click-easy than anything that Microsoft Windows offers. Installing 3rd-party software on MS-Windows is rife with security risks and other problems, and re-installing Windows itself is a time-consuming nightmare compared to Ubuntu or any modern GNU/Linux distribution.

Try out the Ubuntu Live-CD and see this for yourself.

Alex Berkman -June 30, 2005



for installing ati drivers in ubuntu/kubuntu visit ubuntuforums.org...you can find there tutorials for all yaou problems.

another page is http://aaltonen.us/archive/2005/03/02/ubuntu-linux-on-the-ibm-thinkpad-t42/

Ovidiu -July 1, 2005



Ubuntu is the easiest (already tried the biggest names in Linux Distributions). Like many other said, IT IS EASIER than Windows for application installation (Mozilla is an example)!!! Use SYSTEM->ADMINISTRATION->Synaptic Package Manager You can browse everything install (to remove) or check updates, browse new software to install... All with ONE-OR-TWO CLICKS of mouse...

Also for your information, you don't need a book (if you're connected)... Just follow theses links:

http://www.ubuntuforums.org/

http://ubuntuguide.org/

https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RestrictedFormats

With the UbuntuForums and the UbuntGuide, you have everything to customize your Ubuntu OS and if you don't find something, people in the forums are great reference!!! ;)

Ti-Paul -July 1, 2005



@L. Tambiah: Kubuntu (the KDE version of Ubuntu) uses Konqueror as its web browser and actually doesn't include Firefox.

Dave D -July 1, 2005



Alex Berkman you are the typical Linux user these days you are Linux dumbed-down when you think of Windows you think 95 or 3.1. If you need a hobbyist OS then Linux is the way to go but if you need a productive OS XP Pro is the one if you try to be productive with Linux is cost you more money and for darn sure harder to use. Most of the Linux groupies if they tryed XP Pro with a open mind they would never go back to the hobbyist OS. Linux groupies do not no what they are talking about when they talk Windows because they dont know Windows at this time. Going back in time 98 was better than Linux in that time with distros such as Red Hat 6 and so on.

hobbley -July 1, 2005



Can't install Mozilla? Ask somebody in a forum it takes one minute tops.

It's never been hard for me to install programs on Linux so I can't empathize with these issues. I'm not sure why other people have these problems. Just go to Synaptic Package Manager and do a search for Mozilla and select to install it click Apply and it's done. THAT'S IT! You've built a Rocket!

You might need to log off and log back on to see the Mozilla icon (a bug in gnome) but not the program, you may use it immediately. All the dependencies (other necessary programs and libraries similar to api's and ddl's in Windows) will be automatically selected during this process, so if you see that Synaptic wants to install anything else this is why. BTW, Mozilla is stopping development on the Mozilla Suite in favor of Firefox, which is installed by default, GET USE TO IT.

When I learned linux you had to compile the program from source a FAR cry from the gui tools of today, Linux is not hard and is so easy now, my 13 year old nephew has used Linux for 3 years!

Linux is the fastest growing OS on the planet. If you're going to use it, you're going to need to do some reading. GET USE TO IT. I can't tell you how many times Windows and to a lesser degree Mac people ask me questions about their computer. If they would have RTFM (read the fabulous manual) for 5 minutes they wouldn't be crying!

Oh yeah Ubuntu means "Humanity to Others", my creedo is you have to be "Cruel to be Kind".

You guys take care!

gnumber9 -July 1, 2005



"Can't install Mozilla? Ask somebody in a forum it takes one minute tops." (comment by gnumber9) --------------------------------- It is exactly this "Go to the forum or RTFM..." attitude that must be overcome by developers, not only of Linux, but OSS in general. Essentially I cannot say it better than Eric Raymond did in his essay (essntially a horror story) about his experiences in configuring CUPS. Here is the link to original article:

< http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/writings/cups-horror.html >

Please read this article all of you who forgot how it feels to be an ordinary user without several years of Linux/Unix experience.

Best wishes BNK

Boris (Dr. Cobalt-60) -July 1, 2005



It is exactly this "Go to the forum or RTFM..." attitude that must be overcome by developers, not only of Linux, but OSS in general (comment from boris).

It's YOUR type of attitude that I have issues with. If you want to learn something you have to GO LEARN IT! If any developer out there wants to put a wizard in every corner of an OS then go ahead. I personally hate Wizards. If I don't know something I go and find the answer by RingTFM and don't whine and cry like I'm some over sensitive child who can't reach his milk!

There are plenty of gnewbies who ask intelligent questions and say they at least attempted something by themselves, but didn't succeed after they Googled for several keywords. Most time this is a vocabulary issue, exempli gratia, a package. If you have any clue on learning ANY discipline id est, geology, geography, driving a vehicle, cooking or going to the bathroom say in Mexico, then you would understand a basic vocabulary is necessary. These words are available in every corner of the interent.

I do not care for OSS politics or Eric Raymond's comments. I simply use Linux and the *bsd's and that is all.

I've never told a client to RTFM, but this is where I go first!! Or I Read the fabulous Man page.

You guys have fun

gnumber9 -July 1, 2005



>> If you have any clue on learning ANY discipline id est, geology, geography, driving a vehicle, cooking or going to the bathroom say in Mexico, then you would understand a basic vocabulary is necessary.

But for driving a vehicle you don't need to know how an engine works. And switching from one car to another usually is very easy, nothing extra to learn.

UbuWu -July 1, 2005



But for driving a vehicle you don't need to know how an engine works. And switching from one car to another usually is very easy, nothing extra to learn. by ubuwu

Then you obviously understand my point. You don't have to know how the engine works, but you do know it's called an engine and it belongs in a "vehicle".

Thanks! Have fun use linux!

gnumber9 -July 1, 2005



Thanks! Have fun use linux!

You got that right you being a dumb downed Linux user gnumber9-6 your using a 20th century OS and boy it is the twentyfirst century, what you can do with Linux is set home make pretty KDE desktops while the real world is passing you by.

hobbley -July 2, 2005



Haha, Windows != Linux and... Linux != Windows guys... Please remember your FIRST Contact witha Windows OS (Win95 ?) Surely u were very noobish too at this, and couldnt handle all options and Menus , right ? Then Win98 cames, WinNT,ME,2000,XP and whatever, thats an hugh experience over some years with a WINDOWS system, its kidna normal that most people are "pro" like in using Windows... How much Linux distris did u use and how long ? Ahh ? You see :)

So please start using Linux (doesnt amtter which distro) for some YEARS,and THEN uw ont say it agian that it should be easier to do smth...

riz -July 3, 2005



I haven't installed and tried ubuntu yet, but it's in the mail and I will be testing it out, and without doubt be enjoying it. To all you newbies (of which I still consider myself one), don't be afraid of the Penguin! I've installed Red Hat 5.2, 6.2, 7.0, Xandros, MEPIS 3.3.1, Win 95 and Win 98, and I found that any version of Linux I've listed is easier, yes, I said easier, to install than Windows. Some of the earier versions of Linux do require learning how to use the system, once installed, as opposed to just point-and-click and expect good results. However, the latest versions of Linux are easier to use than Windows, and don't have the security problems inherent in Windows. Just do a little research and find out which distro is newbie friendly and enjoy! Don't try to tackle a distro that where you are required to have an indepth knowledge of partitioning, compiling, etc. You learn to do all that as you go along. And, virtually every distro of Linux supplys you with the tools to learn how to do all these geekie things if you want to. Nothing extra to buy. Liberate yourself. You had to take the time to learn Windows (or Mac). Take the same amount of time to learn Linux, and you'll be repaid 100 times over with an OS that can do amazing things for you. The only limit is how much you limit yourself in what you learn.

S Barringer -July 5, 2005



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S Barringer -July 5, 2005



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kOiL=- -July 6, 2005



To anyone who has a spare PC (and in this day and age, most people reading this will have an old PII box stashed somewhere!), download the install image from Ubuntu.com and install it! At least then you will have an experienced opinion, rather than just commenting on 'Stuff you've heard about LINUX'. If you don't have a spare box, then download the live CD and just boot from it - OS on a cd without abuse to your existing system! You may just 'waste' an evening, or it may mark a turning point in your IT life?

Joe Bloggs -July 7, 2005



just adding my 2 cents

Personaly Gentoo is my choice of OS reasons:

portage use flags Optimized for my archetecture.

www.gentoo.org Check it out ! (note: you can always do a stage3 install)

Neoxred -July 10, 2005



It just works! Ubuntu linux has all the stuff for getting some work done. I really like the fact that I can use it right away while I'm tweaking and adding. I don't recommend linux in any flavor to any newbie unless a little homework is done first. Even ms windows has a learning curve and yes some people can even mess up a windows machine. Yes, alittle study, patience and help from the 'community'. I'd say Ubuntu linux has all the bases covered.

Arnold Johnson -July 12, 2005



I liked the article ...Isn't it amazing how people can line up for and against...I've got Linux (RedHat) on a dual boot with Windows XP Pro and plan to instal Ubantu on another machine in dual boot with Win 95.. and I don;t know what I'm doing most of the time because Windows SP Is always causing troubles...right now I can't print with my printer, I can't scan with my scanner, My acces to WMP is unstable and I can't download my pix that is using my Windows XP Pro but if I use Linux at least I can use my various programs and even print....How about that...

Pete Avon -July 16, 2005



I've read a lot about Ubuntu. I've used a alot Ubuntu. I've tried most Linux flavours ( Suse, Knoppix, Corel, Red Hat, Fedora, Mandrake, Paipix, Caixa Mágica, Kubuntu, etc... ). But every single one of them has failed in one very important thing, tha nobody seems to notice (!!!) ICONS Let me explain a little better: When i install something on my linux box ( Ubuntu, right now ), i'm expecting it to install everything, just like M$ OS does. Why? Because it's how i ( and 85% of word computer users) learned. Ubuntu ( and other debian distros ) does just that with APT. 5 Stars for that. No more compiling, no more extra packages to search for. BUT....... (here's the catch) In windowze, when i install something, either there is a nice icon on my desktop, or an entrance on my start menu, or even both. This way i can find what i just installed very quickly and easily. On Linux is EXTREMELY rare to see anything like that to happen!!! Usually i have to type the name of the package on the command line, cross my fingers and hope it works. Sometimes does, others don't.... The standart user doesn't know how to do this!!! It's a step too far for the common user. Same goes for manually making a shortcut on the desktop for the application... Want to make life easier for Linux people? Start making Icons for your programs that are installed automaticaly on the desktop or create an automatic entrance on the start menu. I bet alot of people would get their life easier on linux and the transition from M$ OS may very well turn out to be very smooth.. But that's just my opinion. Vitor Silva -Portugal-

Vitor Silva -July 16, 2005



Hob-gnobber: I'm to late and you're too funny! Wintendo for the 21st century, that's funny! And that dumbed downed English grammer you use, you're good, really good!

gnumber9 -July 18, 2005



Installing stuff on Ubuntu is easy *if* there's a Synaptics package for it. If there isn't then it's a lot more difficult. On Windows, everything comes as an MSI or Installshield executable installer or similar. A legacy of Linux's more 'techie' past.

Leaving arguments about MS business practices and the GPL aside, looked at in isolation XP Pro is good and stable OS - fact. I'm not saying it's better than Linux or vice versa. I had severe problems with Mandrake on the PC that now has Ubuntu on it, but you don't see me slagging Mandrake because I'm one person who had problems on oldish hardware.

I have a covermount DVD chock full of Linux software, and I haven't yet found something on it that is easy to install, because they're all RPM's or tarballs or whatever, or need building. Contrast with a DVD full of Windows shareware and freeware, where you would have simple installers that your parents could use.

Now whether you want your parents installing all sorts of crap is another question ...

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loaded ubuntu last week on four different computers 200MHz to 1700MHz after trying several linux OS without much success over the last few years.I was amazed at the vast improvement. the only problem I found was trying to set the partitions.The only way I could get it to work was the auto set up.Unless I accepted loosing part of the HDD space. I also would like Icons on the desktop. or info on how to do it.Bye the way I get the impression that this system could take over from windows with a bit more work. I have used every windows OS from Dos to XP and I like ubuntu. I hope they keep up the good work. just a small note I found that I could network with my other windows computers and transfer files etc but some of them wont work or open.

MikeS -July 27, 2005



Ubuntu principles are good..to serve the humanity. This OS is not only serve us but also encourage us to learn new exciting things. It is the OS that is kind and innovative unlike other OSes. The future clearly shows that Ubuntu has the edge.. It will be part of Humanity and I'm sure it will.

Leo U. -July 27, 2005



Hello all who the hell would pick a windows OS over any Linux Os LINUX keep this in your head best way to say it LINUX is a master key Windows is a locked door and unless your a windows wannabe hacker then you might have a chance on getting hte right keys who really needs that hassle like come on stick to Linux and be feel and wonder from there on how secure you are then a windows OS if you like everyone seeing your information day to day then stick with windows we totaly dont care were even here for support some of us im 18 and I have masterd linux like come on how hard is it really I just wanted to add this so the good name of LINUX dosnt get hurt MICRO$OFT Read this YOu Got Owned!!! Ok well just use your mind about the face choosing the right OS can be madning so just use your brain and then your good to go ok well by for now *******CYBER MASTER*******

PISSED -July 28, 2005



I began to change to linux a couple of years back when I knew i was old enough that I would have to pay for and operating system if i kept using windows. I didnt think much of windows because it would freeze on me when i did more than have IE and Word open. Certainly was not worth the money. I tried various distros starting with mandrake 9.2 then 10 and SUSE, Fedora Core 2&3, Mandrake 10.1 I even looked at DSL!! Then I found Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Mepis. I love synaptic. Its so much easier to install, update and maintain the installed software and OS than in RPM distros and Windows. AFter much playing I decided I liked Gnome most as its so simple and smooth. KDE has to many options and to much clutter for my liking although the latest version seemed to look very pretty...but still to many options. One of the major reasons for changing distro so often was my battle with Wireless. Well ubuntu made that easy!! It picks up my card on install and sets it up and connects straight to my network. All the software i want is available, the forums at http://www.ubuntuforums.org are helpful and the first time install guide there is fantastic. I ditched windows on my laptop about 4 months ago and when i came home from Uni at christmas the families main computer went from windows XP to Ubuntu and my parents use it everyday with no complaints. Indeed they have said they prefer it as they can't **** it up so easily. It turns on, the software starts and is easy to use, there are no pop ups, no firewall programs flashing around from the taskbar, no anti-virus programs telling us ten million new definitions are needed every five minutes. Whilst its not pure hearted enough for open source die hards the development of WINE and Crossover is important to get ppl migrating. My parents use MS office because they know it but they are slowly using OpenOffice to do things aswell. Adobe releasing Acrobat 7 was brilliant aswell and using firefox means they can swap between windows and linux boxes. The final nail in the windows coffin for me is the move to restrict updates for non-legal versions of Windows. I fully understand why they are doing this, they are after all a company but I don't think their product is very good and its certainly not worth the money so I won't buy it. Linux provides the answer for me and my family. Will I try LongHorn when it eventually comes out? yes i will because you can't comment or critise things until you have tried then!

Andy

Andy -July 28, 2005



Im new to ubuntu and installed it on my pc but when i tried to install software programs I like I couldn't do it. Please help me someone and tell me what Im doing wrong.I would realy like to quit using Windows O/S.It wouldn't even read AOL disk. Thankyou Sencerly mail2lane.

mail2lane -October 10, 2005



well I am new to LINUX OS I am trying to have a LINUX Virtual Machine Using VMware on my Windows XP Home edition I have tried ubuntu before I am quite pleased even though I am a Windows user but I also have another Emulator for the MAC OS it's ok but I can connect to the net with it I am not happy with it so once I got VMware Player I decided to use a LINUX OS and I chose Ubuntu can any give any other links to packages I will need for source compiling because I have Windows Programs I need and there in source form only

Thanks

Hellfire147

NEW -March 9, 2006



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Mark -March 28, 2006



I am also new to Ubuntu, but I feel I am goig to like it as so as I learn all the different aspects. Right now I can't get connected to the internet and my logitech mouse doesn't work. Both problems have solutions I am sure, i just have to find them. I think the main problem with internet is the the modem, it is a Lucent modem so it is probably a Winmodem

Mark -March 28, 2006



voy a probarlo

u3 -August 31, 2006


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