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June 29, 2004  |  Joshua Zyber  |  Feature Articles
High-Definition DVD: Available Now!

Home theater is an ever-evolving concept, constant in only one regard: Its greatest enthusiasts are never content with what they have, never satisfied until the home movie-watching experience can effectively rival the best aspects of a true theatrical screening. Over the years, we’ve gone from poor-quality VHS to the better but cumbersome laserdisc, until finally hitting a decent stride with DVD. Compact, convenient, affordable, and high quality, these remarkable little discs have done more to kickstart awareness of home theater than any product before. However, although DVDs might be the ultimate in standard-definition home video, they're far from the end of the line for true home theater. We're ready for HD. The displays are out there on the market now. Many of us already own them. Rear projection, front projection, plasma, LCD, DLP, D-ILA—all just waiting, begging, for HD content to light up their eager little pixels. DVD is great for what it is, but so much more is possible, and it’s possible right now.

But where's the HD content? Broadcast, cable, and satellite programming is great for catching the occasional TV show or movie if it happens to be on during your schedule (and isn't cropped from the original aspect ratio, edited, or interrupted with commercials), but many of us prefer to actually own movies to watch on our own time. When it comes to prerecorded HD media, the only significant option in the American marketplace is D-VHS, an awkward tape-based format whose hardware and software are both overpriced and under-supported. For those who can afford it, D-VHS will have to make due as a stopgap. At least it’s in true 1080i high definition, and it’s available now. Naturally, though, what we all really want is an HD video disc, with all the features and convenience of DVD in a higher-quality format.

Microsoft attempted to get the ball rolling with its Windows Media 9 (WM9) compression codec, which allows an HD movie to be compressed onto a regular DVD in 720p or 1080p resolution. Examples of this include the “bonus” WM9 versions of movies on a small handful of commercially released discs, such as the Terminator 2: Extreme Edition and Standing in the Shadows of Motown DVDs. Although the video quality is good, the hassles of watching it are almost not worth the effort. These discs are playable only in the DVD-ROM drive of a computer with ridiculous hardware requirements, and WM9 also forces a viewer to connect to the Internet to download a licensing agreement before use. (The Terminator 2 license is good for only 5 days at a time.) No thanks. This leaves us waiting patiently for a real HD video disc standard to be finalized and released. We all know the technology is available, but where is it?

The Battle for HD DVD
The holdup on getting such a next-generation product to market comes down to two words: format war. On the one hand, we have Blu-Ray, the HD format developed by Sony that utilizes a new form of high-density, high-capacity storage disc. On the other hand, we have HD-DVD from Toshiba and NEC, with big promotional enthusiasm from head cheerleader Warren Lieberfarb, the former head of Warner Home video who was one of the driving forces behind the development and introduction of DVD. The official selection of the DVD Forum, HD-DVD is based on the current DVD standard but uses the more efficient MPEG-4 compression codec to squeeze more information into the same amount of space.

The competition between these two developing forces has been likened to the infamous battle between VHS and Betamax. Truth be told, that’s not an accurate comparison. VHS and Beta had clear quality and functional differences, and (despite being the inferior of the two) VHS was the clear winner that the public immediately latched onto. No, the situation here is more akin to the war between DVD-Audio and SACD, the two high-resolution audio formats whose quality and features are so similar that they’ve left consumers confused and disinterested. An apathetic buying public still mostly satisfied with plain old CD-quality sound hasn’t bothered to buy into either one. Such might just happen again. Any new video-disc format is likely to be relegated to niche status in light of the wildly popular DVD, and when you try to divide that niche between two separate products, both might suffer. A format war is in no one’s best interest.

Nonetheless, the two opposing camps each refuse to back down. Lieberfarb and Benjamin Feingold, the President of Columbia TriStar Home Entertainment, even recently engaged in a pissing match at the Home Entertainment Summit in West Hollywood. In any case, we as the interested videophile public won’t know the outcome of any of this for quite a while. Current estimates place the introduction of either format at the earliest in late 2005 or early 2006. That’s a long time to go with little but speculation to tide us over.

The Story in Asia
Just when you thought the HD DVD situation was confusing enough, some new players have just entered the game. Several hardware manufacturers in Asia have decided that they don’t want to wait for the Americans and Japanese to make up their minds. Eager to prove that their own countries can produce cutting-edge technology, China and Taiwan have put into development not one but three all-new HD video-disc formats. From China, we have the competing rivals Enhanced Video Disc (EVD) and High-Clearness Video Disc (HVD). Not to be outdone, Taiwan has jumped in with its announcement of Forward Versatile Disc (FVD). It’s a veritable alphabet soup over there! What started as a format war between two titan opponents has degenerated into a free-for-all melee in that part of the world.

It’s safe to say that none of these new Asian formats is intended to set a worldwide standard. Each is a blatant attention-grabbing maneuver from the countries and manufacturers supporting them, and a ploy to circumvent further royalty payments to the mostly Japanese conglomerates who monopolize the home video industry. It's highly unlikely that we'll ever see many Hollywood or other foreign movies licensed for release on any of these formats. Geared for a Chinese marketplace, EVD and HVD will probably release almost exclusively Chinese movies, and likewise with FVD in Taiwan.

Will any of these formats have an impact on the American marketplace or the battle between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray? Not likely. Should Americans even care? Most probably won’t. However, this isn’t to say that they hold no interest for the early-adopter videophile consumer. In fact, there’s one key point that makes them downright fascinating. China and Taiwan aren’t waiting around until late 2005 or 2006. They're putting their HD product out right away. The FVD format (based on a version of the WM9 codec) will be available before the end of the year. Meanwhile, both Chinese formats, EVD and HVD (based on MPEG-2 compression with proprietary encryption schemes), have hardware available on the market right now. What’s more, the players are cheap and easily imported.

Both the Shinco EVD-8830 and the Skyworth HVD-3050 are fully functional region-free DVD players, in addition to their HD capabilities. So, even if neither HD disc format takes off (and frankly it’s very possible that neither will), the machines might still be worthwhile investments for their ability to play normal DVDs from other parts of the world without region-coding restrictions. (For the record, it's not illegal to own a region-free DVD player.) And for those viewers desperate for an HD fix, both machines come prepackaged with a selection of movies for demo material. If you’ve got an HD screen, a hunger for more shiny HD content to light it up as soon as possible, and a couple hundred dollars in discretionary income, one of these players might be worth a look.

Shinco EVD-8830
Hitting the market first was Shinco’s EVD-8830. Housed in a shiny silver case with a reflective front faceplate, the machine is an odd mix of sleekly stylish and chintzy. The player weighs about 7 pounds and, like many Chinese electronics, doesn't exactly impress with the sturdiness of its build quality. You’d expect the first-ever HD disc player to be a robustly built beast with a price tag over $1000. But no, the Shinco looks pretty much like every other cheap Chinese DVD player and is priced at a mere $245. That’s actually on the high side for Chinese electronics, and apparently it hasn't sold well in either China or Hong Kong, where HDTVs are only starting to make inroads and consumers expect to pay much less for a DVD player. Here in the United States, a quality DVD player that's neither region-free nor has any HD output abilities will frequently cost more than that. For what you get, $245 is rather reasonable by those standards.

The Shinco is dual-voltage compatible and doesn't require a currency converter to work in an American electrical outlet. However, the included power cord has a Chinese plug, so you either need to buy an adaptor or replace the cord. Radio Shack part number 61-2876 works just fine and costs only $2.99.

You'll notice that the player's front panel has no disc tray, but rather a slot-loading mechanism. This might have been intended to make the machine look futuristic, but again it seems a little cheap-jack. The lack of a disc tray means that the player won't accept the 3" Pocket DVD format, but I doubt many will consider that a big deal. I know of only one Pocket DVD release: the supplement disc to the anime movie Metropolis.

Connections on the back of the player include the power input and one set each of component video, S-video, composite video, coaxial digital audio, Toslink optical digital audio, and 6-channel analog audio outputs. The player and manual make no mention of DTS compatibility, but in my tests DTS came through just fine from both the digital and 6-channel analog audio connections. The analog outputs are primarily intended for use with EVD’s proprietary EAC 5.1 surround-sound format—another ploy to get out of paying licensing fees to Dolby and DTS, I imagine. Unfortunately, none of the demo discs included in the package is actually encoded with EAC 5.1, so I was unable to test this. Until some EAC-encoded discs get released, I expect most users will simply go with one of the two digital audio connections.

The remote control is one of the worst I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. The button layout is almost intentionally nonintuitive, with important functions not anywhere where you’d expect them to be. The button labels are in English, but several important functions such as Subtitle and Audio are labeled with ambiguous icons that you won’t understand until you look them up in the manual.

Once you’ve got everything connected and powered on, you'll find that the onscreen menus are thankfully in English. Setup is pretty straightforward if you’ve ever used a DVD player, and it has most of the standard features you’d expect. Notably missing is the ability to turn off onscreen icons during movie playback. The player can pillarbox a 4:3 picture in the center of a 16:9 screen, if so desired, but it offers no Zoom function for non-anamorphic letterbox discs.

The settings for output resolution might be a little confusing. The player was designed for the Chinese market, which uses the PAL video format, and is geared primarily for PAL playback. The four resolution choices are labeled SD-PAL, SD-AUTO, HD-PAL, and HD-AUTO. The player will accept DVDs from either NTSC or PAL video formats. If you set the player for SD-AUTO, it will output them in their native resolutions, either 480i or 576i. If you set it for SD-PAL, it will convert NTSC discs to 576i PAL. Important to note is that the player can't convert PAL discs to NTSC. This is a key point for potential American consumers and makes the player much less desirable.

Shinco also offers the ability to upscale a standard-definition DVD to 1080i HD resolution. Unfortunately, scaling to 1080i isn't a sufficient workaround for the PAL problem because the player can't convert the 50Hz PAL refresh rate to the 60Hz that American TVs use. If you set the player tor HD-AUTO and put in an NTSC disc, the player will output 1080i at 60Hz and it will work fine; however, if you put in a PAL disc, it will output 1080i at 50Hz, which is incompatible with most display models. Likewise, HD-PAL converts everything to 1080i at 50Hz and is basically useless. American viewers will have to set the unit to either SD-AUTO or HD-AUTO and stick to watching only NTSC discs. You'll also notice that the player doesn't offer any progressive-scan output formats. This is an interlace display model only.

The Shinco is region-free out of the box, and I had no problems playing any of my Region 3 NTSC (Hong Kong, Korea) or Region 2 NTSC (Japan) discs. There is no need to enter a secret menu or do anything else sneaky. The player can also easily get around RCE-encoding, and I tested this myself with a known RCE disc.

Finally getting to playback quality, I first tested the standard-definition settings and everything there seemed fine. Notably, the player will downconvert the included 1080i EVD discs to standard 480i 60Hz output—fascinating. My primary interest was in the machine’s HD functions, so I quickly set it for HD-AUTO. Using Avia test patterns, the scaling quality from 480i to 1080i measured decently on the resolution charts, perhaps a little less impressively than my primary Denon player run through an iScan-HD video scaler, but the iScan retails for $1500, so that’s not a fair fight. For a $245 DVD player doing its own scaling, the results were certainly more than adequate. I noticed no edge-enhancement ringing added to the image as a result of the scaling. However, a bit disturbing were some very blatant chroma delay problems that showed up on the color bar patterns.

Moving on to real movie content, the chroma problems I noted on the color bars weren't visible in actual practice. I fed the player a barrage of movies, and they all looked very pretty scaled up to 1080i. Note that scaling a DVD doesn't result in a true HD picture. Scaling doesn't add real picture detail. What it does is fill in the empty spaces between scan lines by duplicating information from the surrounding pixels, which provides a smoother, more stable image—but not real HD. Because we aren't dealing with progressive scan, there were no combing artifacts to be found; however, some minor image shimmer did appear and was disappointing.

Now for the good stuff: HD video content from the brand-new EVD format. The Shinco comes packaged with five free demo discs, each stored in a plain keepcase with generic artwork that has no English text. The only way to tell what you’re watching is to put a disc in and hit Play. The first disc is a brief 8-minute demo clip to get you started. A sort of a mini version of Koyaanisqatsi, the program has some time-lapse photography, some computer graphics, and some scenery all played to music. It makes fine video wallpaper to play in a background loop during a party. Ah, HD bliss! The picture looks terrific. Everything shot on HD video, the image is very sharp and vivid, with pure colors and an excellent 3-D appearance. It’s short, but we’re off to a good start.

The other four discs are all Chinese movies: a period costume drama/comedy called The Lion Roars, a modern action comedy called Kung-Fu Girls, the action fantasy Black Mask 2, and Zhang Yimou’s martial arts epic Hero, starring Jet Li. All the movies are in either Cantonese or Mandarin language, and none have English subtitles (except for Black Mask 2, which inexplicably has one scene with hard-coded English subs, but then reverts back to having no subtitles). English-speaking viewers might enjoy the eye candy but will probably not have as much interest in sitting through an entire untranslated movie. All the movies were obviously transferred from theatrical film prints, not pristine sources such as an internegative or interpositive, and suffer from visible dirt on the elements. Hero is presented in its original 2.35:1 aspect ratio. Black Mask 2 starts at 2.35:1 but switches to a cropped 16:9 presentation after the opening credits. The other two movies are 16:9 all the way through. Picture quality is generally very good, about comparable to what I see when watching HDTV via cable. None of the discs have 5.1 soundtracks, just compressed and shrill 2-channel audio mixes that are rather unsatisfactory.

The only movie I was able to compare directly to a DVD was Hero. Run side-by-side against the Region 3 DVD, the EVD is definitely sharper and more detailed but has a very different color balance that is darker and bluish. Overall, I prefer the warmer look and stunning DTS 5.1 sound of the DVD. On the other hand, the EVD is the only known release of the 120-minute Director’s Cut (the theatrical release and DVD are 98 minutes) and is worth owning for that reason alone, even without subtitles.

At present, these five free discs are the only EVDs in existence. No professionally packaged consumer releases are available. The companies supporting the EVD format have claimed that more than 1000 titles will be released by year's end, but no progress has actually been made toward that goal.

Although the picture aspect of both DVD and EVD was nice, the player I received experienced repeated audio dropouts in both Dolby Digital and DTS DVD soundtracks, as well as whatever 2-channel format the EVDs were using. The Hero EVD also froze up and pixelated during one chapter, and I was able to get past it only by skipping to the next one, missing about 15 minutes of movie. Obviously, some quality-control problems are happening here, and the Shinco has a number of glitches still to be worked out. These are serious flaws, and coupled with the inability to convert PAL to NTSC, they make for a less-than-great region-free player.

Shinco is reportedly working on a new model that will have added functionalities, including the ability to scale to 720p output. Hopefully, it will also have better quality control and fewer glitches. When or if this new model will come out is still unknown, because EVD hasn’t exactly sparked a lot of interest in its native country. The format could already be dead in the water. As such, the EVD-8830 is an interesting curiosity but is basically impossible to recommend for ownership.

Skyworth HVD-3050
I’ve expended a lot of words on a player that I don’t even recommend for purchase, so let’s skip ahead to one that I do. The Skyworth HVD-3050 won't win any beauty contests (it’s very plain and even more cheap-looking than the Shinco), but the quality and functionality are much better than its competition. Priced at a mere $149, it's a significantly better value in all respects.

Like its competitor, the Skyworth will also accept American 110v voltage without needing a power converter (the back panel claims to be compatible with 85-245v), but in this case the Chinese power cord is nondetachable. If you aren't up to opening the player and installing a new cord, an adaptor will be necessary.

On the back panel are a power switch and a standard bevy of output connections: component video, S-video, composite video, coaxial digital audio, Toslink optical digital audio, 6-channel analog audio and separate left/right 2-channel analog audio. There's also an HD-15 connector that apparently is capable of outputting the video in either VGA (640x480) or SVGA (800x600) resolutions. The front panel is black but sheltered behind an ugly opaque plastic cover that can't be removed. The unit has a standard disc tray that looks potentially flimsy but is still preferable to the Shinco's slot-loading type.

No mention of DTS compatibility is mentioned on the player, on the packaging, or in the manual, but I made sure to test this. The player passed the DTS stream through its digital audio connections without incident. Using the 6-channel analog audio connections, only Dolby Digital comes out. The player is obviously lacking an internal DTS decoder, so a digital audio cable is the preferred connection method.

The manual that comes in the box is entirely in Chinese, so not a lot of help there. Fortunately, the remote control and all the onscreen user menus are in English. The button layout on the remote isn't terrific, but it’s a lot better than the piece of junk that came with the Shinco. Navigation through the setup menus is pretty easy to figure out and should only take a few minutes to get everything ready. Like all DVD players, the Skyworth can be set for either 4:3 or 16:9 display types; however, unlike the Shinco, it doesn't offer any modes for pillarboxing a 4:3 image in the center of a 16:9 screen. Viewers with TVs that force a 16:9 stretch on all progressive scan input signals should be aware of this point.

The available output resolutions are NTSC 480i, NTSC 480p, PAL 576i, PAL 576p, HD 720p, HD1080i, and (if using the HD-15 connection) VGA or SVGA. Any compatible disc format that's inserted into the player can be scaled to any one of these resolutions, including down-converting the HVD discs to 480i standard definition. The unit does PAL-to-NTSC conversion and NTSC-to-PAL, both with appropriate refresh rate conversion and accurate picture geometry, unlike many cheap region-free players.

One minor annoyance is that the player doesn't have a mode for automatically outputting NTSC or PAL discs in their native resolutions. You have to set your desired resolution in advance, and everything will be scaled to that. Most users won't object to this, but those with multistandard displays might be slightly irritated. To offset this frustration, the player’s remote control does have convenient buttons for switching display resolutions on the fly without going through all the setup menus. Also worth noting is that the machine has no black level control setting. Output of 480i seems to be set automatically to the “Lighter” 7.5 IRE black level, whereas 480p and all the other resolutions come out at the “Darker” 0 IRE, and there's no way to change this.

The Skyworth is region-free out of the box, with no need for hidden menus, and easily circumvents RCE encoding. I threw a multitude of discs at it from all regions and formats, and it played and converted them all to every output resolution. Conversion of PAL to NTSC seems to introduce a small amount of shimmer, but honestly that's pretty typical of region-free players and I didn’t find it severe enough to be objectionable. I didn't see any problems with frame-rate stutter, as is often a problem when converting PAL 50Hz to NTSC 60Hz.

A few years ago, Skyworth caused a small stir with its model 1050 DVD player, one of the few region-free units available with the excellent Faroudja deinterlacing chip. For this model, Skyworth has done away with the Faroudja and gone with a new deinterlacing solution that's not quite as good. In general, movie playback looks fine and stable, but on some of the more difficult film-based material I threw at it, minor combing artifacts intruded into the picture at 480p, 720p, and 1080i resolutions. I found that the Faroudja chip in my other DVD player and the Silicon Image chip in my iScan video scaler both had better progressive-scan deinterlacing quality than the Skyworth. It’s certainly not terrible, but it's not perfect either.

Material shot or edited on video tends to be the most difficult to deinterlace properly, and anime programs are some of the worst test cases due to their rampant improper flagging. In my worst-case example—the trailer for the anime program RahXephon, found on many discs from ADV studios—the image breaks up into combing artifacts in almost every shot in all but the very best deinterlacers. Even the Silicon Image chip in my scaler has problems with it. Basically, Faroudja is the only solution that handles it smoothly. The Skyworth didn't do so well with this one. The trailer is a big combing mess, as I feared. It's probably not the worst I’ve seen from some flag-reading DVD players, but the chip inside is certainly not as agile as the Faroudja. I'm disappointed that Skyworth chose to go another route, but I suppose at this price-point the company had to make some compromises.

In other respects, the scaling quality looks very good at both 720p and 1080i resolutions. The player doesn't have the Chroma Upsampling Error, or if it does, it uses filters to mask it to a degree that I couldn’t see it on my worst test-case discs. No edge enhancement is introduced by the scaling process, and the resolution charts acceptably on Avia test patterns. For real movie content, choosing between the two resolutions will depend as much on your particular monitor as on the player itself, but both looked fairly comparable on mine. Sometimes, one particular scene would look better at one setting, while another scene would look better at the other. Both scaling options seemed slightly softer than regular 480i or 480p outputs. Likely some filtering is being employed to reduce the appearance of scaling artifacts, but the difference is minuscule. The scaling quality might not be reference quality, but for a $149 DVD player it can’t be beat.

And what about real HD? The player comes with two demo HVD discs, the action thriller Heroic Duo and a comedy called My Dream Girl. Both are in their original Cantonese language with no English subtitles (drats!). The discs are professionally packaged with slick artwork, although the packaging design is strange and awkward. The discs are held in a cheap plastic liner, which is stored in a paper sleeve inside a thicker plastic slipcover.

Unlike the EVD demo discs, the HVDs are a professional-looking product all the way. The disc authoring is easier to navigate, and both movies are mastered from clean source elements rather than used theatrical prints. Heroic Duo is presented in its original 2.35:1 aspect ratio with Dolby Digital 5.1 sound, and My Dream Girl is a 16:9 transfer, also with DD 5.1. Picture quality looks decent on both, but not dramatically better than that of regular DVD. There's been some debate about whether the discs are truly encoded at an HD resolution, or actually contain a standard-definition signal that the player upscales to HD. I’ve found it difficult to obtain hard technical data on the format, but the information I have received indicates that HVD discs are encoded natively at 720p resolution. To back this up, in my observations the discs look distinctly worse when the player is set to 480i or 480p output. Edges look jaggy and fine textural detail is lost. Set for 720p or 1080i, the details fill in and the image is more stable. Nonetheless, both HD settings lack that “through a window” feel you get with most HDTV. Whether this is due to the format’s limitations, both movies in question having soft photographic styles, or heavy filtering employed to reduce compression artifacts, I can’t say for certain. What I can say is that these two discs in particular don't look as detailed as the EVD discs packaged with the Shinco player. Honestly, I own DVDs that look better.

Some compromise must have also been made in the audio department to compress an HD movie onto these discs, because the Dolby Digital 5.1 mix on Heroic Duo sounds pretty poor. The track is flat and lacking dynamic range. The sound just has no life to it, despite all the shooting and explosions. My Dream Girl has a less complicated mix and fares better. It would score about average compared to a standard romantic comedy on DVD. With such a small sample to test, I have no way of knowing whether this weak audio is a flaw inherent to the HVD compression scheme or just poor mastering on the part of these two specific initial test discs.

As I think back on how badly the first wave of DVDs from 1997 holds up to current standards, I’m inclined to hope that the HVD video and audio problems are disc-mastering issues and that the format will get better as it progresses.

As with EVD, there are currently no HVD discs available for sale other than those that come packaged with the player. However, owing to its low price, wealth of features, and good quality, the Skyworth HVD-3050 has been a hot seller in Asia, and it's very possible that HVD could take off there. I would hope to see more releases soon. Whether any of them will offer accommodation for English-speaking viewers remains to be seen.

Which One?
So you’ve got an HDTV and want more content to play on it. You’re too anxious to wait around for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD to settle their differences and will take whatever you can get in the meantime. You also wouldn’t mind getting a decent region-free DVD player while you’re at it. What to do? At just $149 plus about $65 shipping from Hong Kong, the Skyworth HVD-3050 is an excellent all-purpose region-free DVD player that also happens to come with a couple of HD movies, albeit of only mediocre quality. Maybe more HVDs will be released in the near future with better mastering that will show off the format’s true potential. And if you’re very fortunate, maybe some of them will be English-language or include subtitles. Frankly, for all you get, any HD content is just gravy on top of a terrific DVD player value. In fact, the Skyworth has now taken its place as my default region-free player, in favor of the venerable Malata DVD-N996 that has served me well for years.

Unfortunately, the more expensive Shinco EVD-8830 has too many quirks and glitches to recommend for purchase, even though its initial EVD discs look better than the HVD samples I’ve watched so far. The main motivating factor in this player’s favor is the inclusion of the highly desirable director’s cut of the movie Hero, not available on any other disc format. Is that enough to spend $245 plus $80 shipping, especially when the disc has no English subtitles and a poor two-channel audio track? I would dare say not. If Shinco (or some other manufacturer) can get its act together and release a better EVD player model with more features and higher quality, maybe the format will be worth reevaluating in the future. If not, EVD might already be dead. At present, I see more potential in the HVD format.

For those interested, both players are available at the stated prices from the Hong Kong-based retailer HiViZone. Assuming the players are in stock (the Skyworth has been a popular seller), shipping takes a short 3-4 business days to the United States. Mine arrived promptly on the fourth day. In my experience, the site also offers courteous English-language assistance to any questions you may send by email. Have fun shopping!

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The problem with this technology is what is not being said about the missing piece to the EVD puzzle. The missing piece is the american tech company ON2 and their proprietary compression technology. Here is an obvious situation where the Chinese are trying to screw ON2 out of the royalty payments and the contract they signed and are now using the information they gained from On2 to try and create their own compression codec. They seem to be lacking in the "smart" department because all they have succeded in doing is to lose the open window of time that they had against their Blue Ray competitors, and H264, microsoft, apple and EVERY one out their with their own idea. China BLEW this one big time as they had the lead but never ported the codec from ON2 and now all they will have is worthless junk that even the Chinese won't buy and they will lose the lawsuit and arbitration and still have to pay over 5 million dollars. What idiots..... better go back to the bicycle again boys. your now offically a day late and a dollar short...... if you catch my drift!!

jack danials -June 30, 2004



Have a look at the V,Inc. Site, and read the write-up of the Bravo D3, to be released late in the year. This is a player that will play the Win Media 9 offerings in HD. Don't sell that technology short so soon, at least until you see what WM9 looks like with existing DVD player technology. dave

Dave Brumbaugh -June 30, 2004



Too many varieties of technology will certainly screw getting HD onto a DVD-type media. I have no sympathy for the royalities that Sony probably wants for Blue Ray, but it is the only solution that makes sense to me - a disk holds 27GB, and (staying with the ATSC compressed format - we don't need yet another) provides a media holding about 3 hours of material. This keeps it simple for consumers and could take off fast. We are all still paying for the recordable DVD format wars, and will be for years to come.

Video Guy -June 30, 2004



WM9 is on Media Center PCs now. As soon as a digital video output that can carry a signal 100ft is common it will be cheaper to run video from your computer. HDMI stands a good chance of becoming that standard. Put your computer in a closet far away from the home theater and use an integrated control system such as Onkyo's NetCommand to control it from the TV.

Computers adapt to change quickly and at low cost. I'm wiring my house and waiting for Microsoft's next OS before investing in HiDef video.

Scott Churchill -June 30, 2004



One brief observation: the mains cable that was supplied with the Shinco EVD-8830 player has a UK 3-pin plug fitted (as shown in the picture) - it's most certainly NOT Chinese!

Clem Dye -July 1, 2004



Another good choice for hybrid DVD player is the Momistu V880 also available from HiViZone. This player is region free and upconverts to 720P or 108I. It's software upgadable form the support site as well.

Frantz Louis-Jacques -July 1, 2004



Dear Editor !

What a GREAT report !!!

A few questions looking for your help :-

(1) have you tried to connect the Skyworth HVD-3050 to Sanyo Z1 projector (or similar models with 1/4 HD panel), what about the 3050's DVD upscaling to 1080i look on the Z1 ? will that look MUCH better than a middle price DVD player (e.g. Philips 963SA) at 480p/575p ?

(2) what about the "digital audio output" sound quality of the 3050 ? will it be comparable to a middle price DVD player as well ?

I owned both Sanyo Z1 and Philips 963SA, and just UNSURE whether it is worth to buy the Skyworth because of its 1080i upscaling ?

Looking for any advice !!!

AVJ -July 2, 2004



> "(1) have you tried to connect the Skyworth HVD-3050 to Sanyo Z1 projector (or similar models with 1/4 HD panel), what about the 3050's DVD upscaling to 1080i look on the Z1 ? will that look MUCH better than a middle price DVD player (e.g. Philips 963SA) at 480p/575p ?" <

I have not attempted this particular combination, however I can say that as a rule it is not advisable to scale a DVD picture up to 1080i if you are just going to downscale it back to 960x540 afterwards. You aren't adding any real picture detail through the scaling process, and you're better off doing all of your scaling in one chip. By scaling twice in different directions, the risk of introducing mathematical errors increases greatly.

> "(2) what about the "digital audio output" sound quality of the 3050 ? will it be comparable to a middle price DVD player as well ?" <

I'm not an audiophile, and I know that some people get very passionate in their assertions about these things, but as far as I'm concerned there is no difference in audio quality between any two DVD players if you are using a digital audio connection. I'm in the "bits are bits" camp. The player is just a transport. Either the bits get from the disc to the receiver or they don't. The player will not "color" the sound through the digital output, as it might if you were using the player's on-board DACs and the analog audio connections.

Josh Z -July 4, 2004



Although HDTV material will not likely be available in Western countries for another 5+ years, one can readily obtain HDTV material off satellite or HD-cable right now. By converting this material to a file compatible with these players (eg. HVD format), could one not then simply burn a DVD-R/RW with the file and then watch the HD material on their TV? Would this not be possible?

Now as far as the first comment regarding "Going back to bicycles", was it not that long ago when Japanese cars and electronics were considered "junk"? Why don't you learn a little more about history before making these racist remarks?

Satviewer2000 -July 7, 2004



I am very nervous because I got a great deal (1000$US) on my RCA HDTV, and I currently enjoy major events in 1080i. I lose out big time in the fact that my TV doesn't support 720p and most Xbox games are in this format. I hope HD DVD will be regulated to support both 1080i and 720p with no upscaling or downscaling requirements. And how about DVI or HDMI? HD is HD but I desire a 100% digital route from the cable company or DVD player, in this case, to my TV.

Matt B (RG represent) -July 14, 2004



As a follow-up: I purchased the movie Heroic Duo on DVD so that I could compare it to the HVD. Although I stated that I was disappointed in the HVD, in direct comparison it is much better than the DVD. It is substantially more detailed, has crisper contrasts and cleaner colors. The DVD looks soft and muddy in comparison.

This may be chalked up to the HVD simply having a better video transfer, but when watching the two back-to-back it really does seem like it could be SD vs. HD.

I still think that the HVD doesn't look that much better than a good DVD, but this could perhaps show some hope for the format.

> "I hope HD DVD will be regulated to support both 1080i and 720p with no upscaling or downscaling requirements." <

It is simply not realistic at this point in time to expect any new disc format to contain separate 1080i and 720p editions of the same movie on one disc. We aren't yet at the point where we can achieve that kind of storage capacity and maintain any sort of decent quality. On the other hand, it is certainly feasible for the disc to contain one of those formats and the player to scale to the other if needed. That is the best we can hope for, and frankly that's not so bad.

Josh Z -July 16, 2004



Hey Jack Danils, stop with the racist remark, you bigot. Like Satview200 said, read your history book. The U.S. doesn't even know how to make DVDs, you dumb idiot! You and the rest of your Nazis can go back to West Virgina!

Hey Josh Z, don't you edit these comments? What kind of editor are you? Are you also in the racist camp?

Flex -July 22, 2004



I'll pass on both of these units. They sound interesting, but without content, they are pretty much useless. I understand why a DVD can't contain both 1080i and 720p formats (Not enough space, as mentioned), but why can't TVs switch from one to the other? Why does a TV convert everything to 1080i or 720p?

Anyone know when a HD Tivo like device will be availalble?

Kidhorn -July 23, 2004



to all of you people out there that have not decided yet for HVD. I would say go for it while it last because the picture looks fantastic. At first it looked soft but after I calibrated my TV Hitachi 53" HDTV using Sound & Vision Disc the picture looked awsome. and here is why, when we calibrate our TVs using the current dvd players you only get an output no max than 480p lines on the player and after doing it with the Skyworth set up at 1080i you will see the difference in quality. The upscaling is great no artifacts or noise in the picture, I mean you can't go wrong with it, is a bang for your buck. Thnks

john -July 26, 2004



JVC makes a HD digital VHS recorder and Hughes makes a HD Tivo.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/imagine/TiVo_HD.dsp

Here is the link.

http://www.hometheatersound.com/equipment/jvc_hm_dh40000u.htm

Hope this helps.

westcott -July 26, 2004



Thank goodness I decided on a PC based player instead of a store bought one. There will almost ALWAYS be a software based player for this kind of stuff, so I won't have to be shopping for a new box every 6 months and be fiddling with a bunch of setups and cabling to boot. This even includes my neighbours new $149.00 JVC Multidisc (even DiVX) player, which will last him all of what, 1 year tops? Maybe I should just go back to tapes, with new dVHS Players (also from JVC)... heh --> http://www.dvhsmovie.com/

Charles Birkner -July 30, 2004



Interesting to see "Winged Migration" to come with any HVD player now. It's a beautiful film, and I am very curious about how it would look like on an HDTV.

http://www.hvd.cn/images/moive/front%20of%20the%20flight%20dird.jpg

Jazzy Hunter -August 3, 2004



In regards to Jack, the Chinese government backs the Chinese EVD format and EVDs can be purchased in stores all over china. Even if EVD doesn’t get off to a quick start, the Chinese government can pretty much stick it out and force it down the channels as long as it takes. Just look at VHS vs. VCDs in asia. Chinese/Japanese/Taiwanese formats/products don’t need the USA for really anything. In fact because Asia, or even just China alone has most of the worlds population, whatever they choose to adopt will be “it” in the future. If not, the world will be split into two. In fact, if you plan to do any kind of business in Asia, better be ready to learn some Japanese/Chinese or your gonna miss out.

MacMoose -August 9, 2004



Hey Jazz, I just want to tell you the GIEC GK3118 HVD player comes with "Winged Migration" for free!! I tested it on my plasma TV, the picture is fantastic, and sound is also great. It dose push the limit of my JVC PH50 DH4 Plasma.

Here is the Link http://giec.cn/cn/web/ArticleShow.asp? ArticleID=97 http://giec.cn/en/chanpin/index.htm

Cheng -August 9, 2004



I recently bought a NeuNeo HVD108, a dvd/hvd player. It is a region free upscaling player that allows upconversion via it's VGA and component outputs. The HVD "Winged Migration" came with the player and while upconverted DVDs look marginally better on this unit than my 480p player, the HVD image is what is truly outstanding.

More titles in this format, which does not look likely, would be greatly welcomed by me. This HVD has been the most impressive image on my front PJ by far. The slim hope of more HVD titles and the fact that this player is firmware upgradeable are the reasons I'll continue to hold on to this unit. It being being $206shipped to the states with a free HVD is a big plus as well.

Jeff G. -October 25, 2004



I order the Skyworth HVD-3050 and it been more than two weeks and they haven't send the item yet and they dont answer my e-mail ,Go figure?

Steven Acosta -October 28, 2004



I have latest Skyworth HVD machines. It is great. At least, it upconverts everything to 720P and 1080P, if the manual is right about 1080P! I use the XGA output for front PJ. Yes, it has XGA output too. Compare to similar product on the market, like the Samsung, it is a bargain at US$200, Plus, it has HVD. There are a lot of HVD disks, most very cheap with English sound track. Do you believe it? I brought few machines back from China to share. It is hard to find even in China. It is the latest model HVD9860 with English and other languages menu. Unfortunatly, the remote is in Chinese. The build quality of this machine is average. But the singal output is super. If you are brave, give it a try.

JB -November 14, 2004



> There are a lot of HVD disks, most very cheap with English sound track <

When can one purchase them?

Josh Z -November 21, 2004



Long live GW Bush!

Henry Fu -November 25, 2004



I currently have 2 DVD recorders and have a large library of movies and am thrilled at the possability of HD recorders down the line BUT, having been burned by Sony twice on their technology "differences" I would definately go with any format that competes with Sony! If I ever have anything Sony again it will be because that is all there is! ...You would think that the various companies would learn to work together on something like this but some do not get it and never will...

Larry -February 19, 2005



I think this unit is better:

This unit is the best multimedia device I have ever seen.

It also sees the PC or Mac through the network, plays all of the Music files (iTunes Folders) the Picture files (iPhoto Libraries) and the Video files (iMovie projects)

Very Impressive, it does it all.

http://shop.iodata.com/shopping/products.php?cat=HNP&sc=AVEL&pId=AVLP2%2FDVDLA

I went to this web site and downloaded HD Quality Movie Trailers, I burned them to a DVD and played them flawlessly on a HDTV. Looks great! I will even stream video through the network.

HD Movie Trailers: http://www.divx.com/hd/

Requires a fast computer and DivX

More info on Player:

http://www.iodata.com/usa/products/products.php?cat=HNP&sc=AVEL&pId=AVLP2%2FDVDLA#HD

http://www.divx.com/hardware/detail.php?p=34&a=0&sub=ov

If I had them, three thumbs up!

Mark Burginger -February 21, 2005



Hi all,

Where can I buy those HVD discs? Only in China? Can I get from Internet? thanks.

Jack -March 10, 2005



Most likely the blu rays disc is going to win. Sony, Japan's technology is always far superior in quality and style then any other country in the world.

Hum -March 10, 2005



So what? Superior tech does not always win (VHS/Beta Max)..

A good discussion on HDDVD and Blu Rau: http://www.highdefforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=5

yiminy -March 15, 2005



I HAVE FAT C0CK! AND YOU ALL WANT TO PUT IT DEEP IN YOUR MOUTHS! YOU LOVE IT!

Mike Oxbig -April 16, 2005



The only thing I find that is negative about HD is that the televisions that are made have only 1 DVI or HDMI connection. I have satellite tv (DISH) and that unit is connected to my DVI on my HDTV. So there is no way to watch a DVD in high definition, since I can't connect the HD DVD player to my DVI input (unless I disconnect the DISH), and that is too much trouble, since I have a large HDTV.

Rod Pastor -August 16, 2005



Your Comments (required):your advance technology is vary good ,i thought of replacing my harddisk with this technology,can i know the advance working of blu ray.

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Your Comments (required):your advance technology is vary good ,i thought of replacing my harddisk with this technology,can i know the advance working of blu ray.

thanking you

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varun.k -September 14, 2005



I love this Shinco EVD-8830 DVD Player / EVD Player.. the quality is so good and enjoy watch movies on it very much.. especially when you use it with a high resolution TV....

I like EVD -September 29, 2005



I always use my chode of a man stick to shove delight in your girlfriends pooper as I drain my juice du jour in her love hole. I get her ******* so hard the downstairs neighbors think the pipes burst, I guarantee it!

George Zimmerman Wannabe -October 26, 2005



No need to wait for Blu Ray technology, Modified Xbox loaded with Xbox Media Center supports upscaling of 480i or 480p movies and dvds in 720p and 1080i and the difference can be noticed easily. I have done this many times and maximised used of my HDTV.

RuelCortez -March 21, 2006



I have just bought a supposed HVD compatible upscaling DVD Player, namely the NEODIGITS HELIOS 2085. The Real issue for me is not CONTENT, I have lots of my own True HD content on my PC & on my website. http://www.visual-image.co.uk

I am able to encode my HD in many formats & at various data rates, All I wanted was a player that would enable me to put files on a standard DVD or DVD9, and play them out at the native resolution, no upscale needed just simple output. Before purchasing this model I asked the company my simple question. WOULD IT DO IT. I was told it could handle a data rate of about 17 Mbs, and that it would possible play MPEG4 back smoother than MPEG2, what does that tell me? It tells me I can play MPEG2 & MPEG4, so far I have not managed to get the thing to play back anything but a standard DVD. Which is not what I wanted. So buyers beware.

I will keep you posted on my findings and anyone with any real information on Players that will do what i want please let me know. I am not interested in Blu-Ray, HD-DVD is interesting but at the mment i want to play back this content from normal DVD disc's.

johnvid -September 21, 2006



my shinco dvd player has everything written in chinese very different from the english i have on the remote.please i need help,i want to change the language to english so that i can read and set it to my own visual and audio satisfaction since it has a lot of features in it.please assist

iniobong -September 24, 2006



Clem Dye -July 1, 2004 The UK three pin plug is used all over China. Most wall outlets take both this and the slimmer Chinese pins.

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The Xoro 42 series range of Full HD LCD Tv's (that's 1080P) and the Xoro HSD 8500 HD DVD player are well worth a look. The HSD 8500 is an FVD format player AND will play WM9 HD disks at 1080i no problem. It will also play and upscale conventional DVD's to 1080i.

Check them out at www.smarthomeentertainment.co.uk

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First of all, whoever Henry Fu is needs to crawl into a hole and die. Secondly, why are u people be dumb enough to go to China and buy a HVD player with a remote written in Chinese if u can't read it?!

darkness -June 11, 2007



WOuld you need an adapter to convert a chinese version plug into an american?

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I WANT TO BUY VINVERTH DVD PLAYERS, WHERE AND WHOM SHALL I CONTACT

K.K.RAJESH -December 20, 2007



i want to buy vinverth products in china and also buy britelite led rechagable lights from china as wholesell..please suggest me where to contact in china

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i would like to know that i want to purchase bulk order of britelite flashlights and vinverth emergency lights from china..please inform me where can i get in china these products...plaese inform me...iam visitnig china march 6th

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