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February 18, 2004  |  Paul Thurrott, Keith Furman  |  News
Apple iPod Mini Off to a Slow Start

Apples' iPod Minis started shipping this week, and Apple announced that it has received more than 100,000 preorders for the small, colorful, and overly expensive (at $250 a pop) devices. That may seem like a decent number, but consider the following: When Apple announced its first-generation iBook product line in 1999, the company received more than 125,000 preorders, and those machines cost over $1000 more per unit than the iPod Mini. We don't mind paying for quality, but $250 is just too much scratch for what is essentially a tiny 4GB hard disk.



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Matt: Unfortunately, journalistic integrity does not exist today. Articles such as the one above are an indication of the prevailing bias in the so called "news" media.

SidinKeyWest -February 20, 2004



Paul Thurrott is a massive tool.

Bill Palmer -February 20, 2004



Matt, they are smoking twinkies. Not to mention this is Paul Thurrott we are talking about here. Hey Paul, how many pre-orders do all other music players combined have over the history of thier release. Hey Paul, how many people have you driven to purchase what is essentially a 256mb USB Flash Drive. Windows users should be aware of what this man writes. Too often he makes up for Microsoft's shortcomings at the expense of Apple. What's wrong, Paul; kind of difficult to be passionate about an OS that won't arrive for two years at the earliest?

TDB -February 20, 2004



This is someone's opinion and poor analyst of non-related statistics not journalism. Wonder how those tablet PC's are doing?

Kerryb -February 20, 2004



Oh no! It's that Paul Thurrott again! The guy has issues with all things Mac. He's the same klutz who told the world HP would be using WMA in it's version of the iPod. A week later HP says it won't. These boys are calling iPod Mini "expensive"! Let them compare it in price and physical size against flash players. I just dare them to do that.

Kid Plutonium -February 20, 2004



Overly expensive? How so? Compared to high end flash players, it's a steal! It's hundreds of dollars less for four to eight times the capacity, and that is EXACTLY the market at which it is aimed. Throw in all of the advantages of the iPod...compatibility with a galaxy of already existing accessories, the iTunes Music Store, built-in PIM functionality, iSync, etc, and you elevate an outstanding value to a level that makes it a no-brainer realizing how great a product this is. So I guess that means the above article's author had less than no brain. Poor guy. I hope he qualifies for public assistance.

BillG -February 20, 2004



Interesting spin on the facts. Thurott and his like are shills for Microsoft. They wouldn't know the truth if it stood up a bit them. When iPod mini sales go over 200,000 by the summer he'll still be saying "off to a slow start". Honesty in the world of technology writing depends on whether the individual is truly independent or on a payroll - Thurott is a sad, sad individual.

pkradd -February 20, 2004



I have to give Paul credit for finding a way to put a negative spin on that phenomenal 100K pre-order number. Paul, you are too good at this!

Anyways, did you know apple only sold about 100K iPods total in 2001!

These iPod minis are going to sell by the boatload, especially once they drop to $199 as Apple has hinted they will. Once that happens, goodbye flash players!

Cliff Stevens -February 20, 2004



If you're in education, you can snap up a iPod mini for $229.

Mike -February 20, 2004



This article is so preposterous it is more akin to the authors behaving like trolls.

The minis 100,000 preorders is an excellent figure and when you compare the price to the competition you'll find out what a great deal it really is.

The mini will be a runaway success.

crl -February 20, 2004



What a bunch of tripe.

David -February 20, 2004



hahahaha paul never ceases to amaze me with his bias, stupidity and ignorance.

i got my iPod mini yesterday (thursday) and ... as someone who has owned all generations of iPods ... this this ROCKS and I would venture to say it will set new sales records for Apple and further solidify Apple's lead in digital music distribution (or should I say, further cement Microsofts cluelessness?) All I can say is the apologists have no clothes, and will look increasingly naked in the coming months.

Bruce -February 20, 2004



The original iPod did not cost more than $1,250 as you assert. Apart from your opinions this part is factually miles from the truth.

John Konopka -February 20, 2004



A real test of the Mini iPod's success will be how soon the cheap ass clones from dell make their appearance. Since dell has never had an original idea of their own, look for colored mini dell DJ's priced at about $99 to show up in a few months.

Big Dave -February 20, 2004



Paul, you really do yourself a disservice when you write stuff like this.

When there is some REAL negative Apple news in the press then you have every right to report it (and you obviously relish it!)

However when some really positive news is released, it really smacks of desperation and a large amount of bias to attach your own brand of negative spin based on some really tenuous product comparisons.

The best selling MP3 player is Apple's iPod. It took about 18 months for the first million to be sold. 100,000 pre-orders for the iPod MINI is pretty good for a product that hasn't even hit the streets yet.

Why don't you give us an in depth story of the low sales and dwindling management at Napster? Oh, I forgot.....they are a major sponsor of this site!

Piot -February 20, 2004



The comments are so good I can add little.

This is writing, not journalism where it's "Bias first,accuracy second and objectivity last or non-existent!"

dc -February 20, 2004



Mr. Thurott looks at the tech world thusly: For Apple the glass is always half empty (or worse). And for Apple it is always partly cloudy (or downright stormy), For Microsoft that glass is half full (or better) and it is always partly sunny (or absolutely cloudless).

pkradd -February 20, 2004



Sad, really sad. You've lost whatever shred of credibility you may have had with this little article. "Slow start?" Other manufacturers would be ecstatic with annual sales of 100,000 units. Apple has that many PRE-ORDERS for this device. And BTW, it is not all "overpriced" in relation to its competition, Mr Thurrott. Do some research, frog od's sake!

deasys -February 20, 2004



"Too much scratch for what is essentially a 4GB Hard drive"

That's not what people are buying. They are buying a whole package that is extremely small, can go anywhere, can hold plenty of songs, and has the best user experience of any MP3 player. I am not buying a 4GB Hard Drive...I am buying an MP3 player that has the best navigation capabilites and is integrated seamlessly with the worlds number one online music retailer...geez.

gsmart -February 20, 2004



I prefer windows over mac because I made an educated choice to use windows, it's the best thing for my work, and quite frankly, I like to play games and macs are slllooowww as hell, except for the new G5s (maybe when those come down in price and speed up a little I'll make the switch). Anyway, I also chose iPod over the competition because it is obviously superior to other similar products on the market, even when you consider the price. Take for instance the dell player. Little cheaper, POS. iPod mini is the same way, it's just a little more expensive than a high end Flash but a zillion times better. This Thurrott guy is a complete idiot and it's embarassing to other windows users. We are not all sheep like this jerk. Some of us think for ourselves. Paul, mac and linux users who read your column are justified in thinking that windows users are lemmings. Please get a brain. You are such a scam.

bill -February 20, 2004



Paul, I don't know what you're thinking or what your agenda is but this is by far the worst case of FUD I've ever read from you. I know you are a Microsoft guy. I know you love your company as much as the Apple followers love theirs. But to come out with something so nonsensical as this and then try to belittle the product by calling it "essentially a 4GB hard drive" is absolutely absurd. Especially when you consider the market position the original iPod has and the fact that no other player has even come close to capturing not only peoples imagination but their business.

Please, for you own sake as a "journalist" offer a retraction or clarification on your article. This just doesn't seem very responsible on your part.

Matt A -February 20, 2004



Paul, One last thing. Would your position be different if the iPod and/or iPod Mini supported WMA?

Matt A -February 20, 2004



Hey people don't bash Paul. He doesn't know what he's writing about. Instead bash the company that pay's him to write about something he knows absolutely nothing about. Paul I'm sorry your being called a idiot ... but I think you'll be better writing about lawn and garden or home improvements. The computer industry defiantly isn't for you.

rlhaon -February 20, 2004



Even Rob Enderle, IMO, is not as dense as this guy. The only logical explanation is that Mr. Thurrott is the long lost relative of the Iraqi Information Minister. Mr. Thurrott, if you want to pursue a career in comedy, please identify youself as a comedian, and not as a journalist. Unless, that's part of you act... Good luck, sir. You need it...

John Smith -February 20, 2004



"essentially a 4 GB hard drive"? I guess that makes those paying $149 for what is "essentially a 256 MB Flash Drive" the REAL idiots.

Why would this website even allow someone who owns a Microsoft-worshipping website to write anything about Apple?

What utter ROT this is..... Paul Thurrott is at best a complete idiot unqualified to write about technology, and at worst a paid shill for Microsoft who is purposefully spreading anti-Apple FUD. Either way, someone should take his keyboard away from him and send him to time-out (or to a course on journalistic ethics).

IT Guy -February 20, 2004



so why do people think Mac fans are over-zealous?

c'mon, let's move on, this story is a troll....

bob -February 20, 2004



Well one good thing comes out of this, he should know better than to write about the mac. Your stupid comments are read by everyone in the mac community. See, Mac users read.... We go and surf thru a list of Mac sites daily... I really hope you have a secured job where you are at, because next time you need a job, and they look up some of your articles they'll see this...

Good luck with your battle against the Mac... Apple is the king of music today, iPod is a household name, and the iTunes Music Store is spreading just as fast. Good luck trying to deny Apple hasnt single handedly changed the way MP3 players are made, and how music will be bought in the future.

Or hey, maybe you should just get a new job so you can afford an iPod... They arnt that expensive compairing them to similar ungodly slow, terrible navagation, and ugly designed players that you are used to.

Alex W -February 20, 2004



What an idiot. Surely this is a joke. I guess he drives a kia because $75,000.00 is "too much scratch" for a Porsche which only has two seats versus the kia's four.

kerry -February 20, 2004



Yo, Paul.

Aren't you tired of baiting all those poor Mac fans? I mean, dude, it's time to move on an find a real job where your skills are needed.

I hear the Iraqi resistance is missing a minister of disinformation...

Steve Jobs -February 20, 2004



Hi guys!

Stop coming here and reading this trash. Mr. Thurrott is simply chuming for traffic. Don't give him the pleasure.

By the way, did he happen to research how many Dell DJs or Samsung Napster MP3 players were pre-ordered? That would have given him some intellectual cover and would have been a fairer comparison.

Ciao

Charley -February 20, 2004



Let's see:

We know that the original iPod is the best selling HD mp3 player ever.

We know it took 26 months to sell 2,000,000 iPods (released Oct, 2001; Apple announced 2 million in Dec. 2004). Simple math (which apparently is way beyond PT) tells us that Apple average 76,923 iPod sales a month.

We know that Apple is outselling THEIR OWN BESTSELLING mp3 player by 25% prior to it even being available through most retailers, magazines, web sites... before most people have even seen or touched it.

We know Paul Thurott is the biggest shill who'll sell his soul for the cheapest price.

Tim -February 20, 2004



Paul, this is not an article. Please do more research and compare Apple's numbers to their competitor's. Don't shame me again! Love, Mom

Your Mother -February 20, 2004



Keith Furman, Paul has zero respect or credibility in the tech community. Don't let your name be attached to anything he writes ever again if you want to avoid the same fate.

A Bit of Advice -February 20, 2004



What more can be said. On the face of it his statement is so off the wall that its frankly...laughable.

I just hope that Apple will be able to keep up with the demand. The mini will sell 1,000,000 its first year outselling its parents. That's about 2,000,000 iPods per year projected.

A major monthly bumps will come as Canada,Europe and Japan music stores start up.

Bob Nies -February 20, 2004



i would think 100.000 is a pretty damn good figure considering the product in question has been pre-ordered 'sight unseen'. Honestly, much of the momentum in ipod sales occured when customers actually got to SEE, FEEL, and USE the ipod in stores etc. Also, judging from the authors comments ("..essentially a tiny 4GB hard disk), i have to wonder if he has actually had the opportunity to test one in person before drawing this conclusion. If that's the case, (and i don't know for sure that it is), the author is really doing consumers a disservice. I personally would like to read some reviews from someone who'd actually used the product..

Dan Curtis -February 20, 2004



iRiver iFP-195T (512 MB) : $299 iRiver iFP-599T (1 GB) : $429 Frontier Labs Nex IA (1GB) : $249 Creative MuVo2 X- Trainer (512MB) : $249

iPod Mini (4GB) : $249

Hmm, now what is overpriced again?

JadisOne -February 20, 2004



Paul was probable abused by the preacher when he was little, and it crippled him mentally for life. He really is a troll and should be put in a home for idiots.

Thomas Carley -February 20, 2004



I am impressed by Paul's ability to slight logic and reason in favor of his Wintel bias. Paul must believe that all he needs to do to discredit Apple is spred FUD about its products and everyone will believe what he says. Thinking people see through his flawed arguments.

I wonder how many Dell DJs have sold since its intorduction in October? 100K? Probably not. Dell won't release sales figures for the DJ since it can't seem to give them away. And you can bet that a website that praises the Dell DJ and criticizes the iPod has little integrity.

I suspect that this article is a schrewd move to garner hits to the web site. The more hits they get the more can be charged for advertising. Too bad they had to sell their souls to increase revenue.

Monte Miller -February 20, 2004



Paul, is there anything you'd like me to get you from Planet Earth?

100,000 units sold sight unseen in one month is a poor performance according to you.

In the 4th financial quarter of 2002 (i.e the quarter ending 09/30/03), Apple sold around 350,000 iPods which - as I know you have difficulty with simple mathematics - is 116,000 units a month.

So, if we ignore the aberration that is the holiday quarter, iPod mini sales are pretty much what any sane reasonable person would expect.

Let's continue the argument:

According to data published by the Consumer Electronics Association, DVD player sales in the USA didn't reach 100,000 a month until 18 months after introduction. Additionally it took over three months for the format to reach 100,000 sales back in 1997 when the economy was in better shape.

Not convinced yet? Here's some more 'real-world' comparison.

In the quarter ending 12/31/03 (Q1, 2003) two years after introduction, Apple sold some 720,000 iPods globally or approximately 240,000 iPods per month. If one accepts that those sales represented 30% of the HD player market, the total global market was around 800,000 units per month.

DVD-Video player sales in the USA did not reach 800,000 units until the holiday quarter of its fourth year of availability (Sept-Dec. 2000).

Here's a question for you: Do you think that any SINGLE CE company behind DVD-Video had a 30% market share of the player market at that point? Do you believe that any of those companies or their investors would have had any reason to be disappointed by that performance?

Your answer to these questions will give a clue as to your ability to act as an objective observer of the marketplace.

Let me give you a straw to which to cling…

In truth, the only argument you might just win here is that iPod mini might cannibalise iPod maxi sales. But you can't win that argument until this quarter is reported to Wall St., and - given that iPod mini will only be available in the USA until 03/31 - it's relatively doubtful that your argument is going to hold water in any real sense.

My personal prediction for this quarter is that Apple will move over 500,000 iPod units for this quarter, which will be close to over 50% of the HD player market. I would call that market dominance by any measure, but somehow you will doubtless move the goalposts to encompass the whole audio player market.

BTW, Here's one final question to which a resourceful chap like you should be able to find an answer: How many DJ Digital Music Players have Dell sold since introduction? Come on, you know you want to tell us.

Mark Solomon -February 20, 2004



This is just too funny! If this guy makes a penny over minimum wage, isn't on food stamps and WIC, if he dosen't live in the deepest drug infested bowels of some inner inner city hell-hole project, if he wears anything other than clothes stolen from a Salvation Army donation Bin, or dosen't suffer from some type of incurable flesh eating bacteria, .... LIFE IS JUST NOT FAIR!

ARGH!

Anthony Swindell (MacAvenger) -February 20, 2004



Oh, and just to finish off!

DVD-Video: Launched in USA in April 97, 2 millionth unit in April 99. iPod: Launched globally in October 2001, reached 2 million sales December 2003.

DVD-Video: First 750K+ quarter (April-June 1999, two years after launch) iPod: First 750K+ quarter (Oct-Dec 2003, two years after launch)

So far the adoption of iPod globally appears to track the adoption of DVD-Video in the USA, which projecting forward implies that Apple may sell some 5 million players during the calendar year 2004.

As a closing comment: By January 2004 (month 82), over 65 million DVD-Video players had been sold in the USA!

Statistics: don't you love 'em!

Mark Solomon -February 20, 2004



As soon as I read the very first word (Apples') I knew all I needed to know about this article. Uneducated.

Dude One -February 20, 2004



Paul is just doing this for traffic. He knows what he is doing and it is working.

John -February 21, 2004



hahahaha - that's the funniest thing I've read in ages....

Keep taking the medication, Paul.....

Jay Nichols -February 21, 2004



I'm not a Mac guy by any stretch of the imagination, but I just plain feel sorry for Paul. I really do.

You can see him rationalizing his decision: Bash the Mac, make money from MS, and get tons of hits on my site so I make a ton of money from advertisers. More money for me. Love from Redmond as a VIP going to invitation only events.

But it's just sad. Walt Mosberg from the WSJ is probably most respected columnist and he loves Apple products, He loves Microsoft products. He slaps them around when he needs to.

But people follow him because he is the real deal. Paul is the slower, dumber kid in class, jumping up and down, desparate to get the same attention.

PC Guy -February 21, 2004



This is a really, really dumb article. I am surprised that a respected publisher like Penton would allow such anectdotal garbage to be published. Isn't it the EDITOR's job to EDIT? The editor needs was asleep on this one!

squeaky -February 21, 2004



Two words:

Moe.

Ron.

Sum Yung Gai -February 21, 2004



Hey friends,

Let's give Paul some traffic and use this article's comment list as a regular Mac hang-out, massage some gentleness into Paul's obviously overworked mind ("How does this fscking flash player work, darned fiddly controls, and 20 more players to test, help!") and generate traffic on a site where clues are few and far in between...

It's be a win-win situation: Paul blurts incongruities, we fix the numerous gaps in Paul's reality and everybody will go home an informed hero.

Mac dudes and dudettes, it's your take: shall we populate Paul's talkback columns with polite nugdes and references to the facts, or do we troll the trolls, therefore all remain trolls?

Maybe Thurott and his readers will appreciate some out-sourced open-source and diverse sources. Politeness applies, raving McLoonies can stay at bay, Paul deserves a break.

flyermoney -February 21, 2004



erratum:

"It's be a win-win situation" should read "It'll be a..."

Goshdarnit! I wish Mac OS X's system-wide text corrector would also check grammar and syntax... well, can't have everything, eh?

flyermoney -February 21, 2004



Picked up a silver mini today for my son and I have to say that this thing is awesome. I felt that the 15G was a better buy for the money but he wanted a mini and it was his birthday so he got it. I've had a 20G for over a year and was thinking about upgrading to a 40G. However after holding and messing with this I'm seriously rethinking that idea. This baby is truly beautiful and I highly recommend it to anyone considering it. Also I dropped the thing from about four feet onto a tile floor not 5 minutes after taking it out of the box. I couldn't believe it. It suffered a minor dent but worked perfectly. This thing is hard to put down. Apple has another winner.

Schultzie -February 22, 2004



I read Windows & .NET Magazine because it has alot of good information that I can use for my job as an IT architect but this guy makes me want to cancel my subscription. Idiot.

Me -February 22, 2004



Watch this CBS report entitled, "Mini iPod Is All The Ragem," and then tell us again about the mini iPod's "slow start."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/20/scitech/pcanswer/main601300.shtml

Hatchet Jack -February 22, 2004



Slow start Eh? like being the fastest selling player of all time is a slow start. comparing it to the ibooks sales- why not compare it with pre-orders of Win XP compared to Win 98?

bluebeetle -February 23, 2004



For an EE class we have been making measurements on various hard disk players and taking them apart to check construction quality. What was stunning was finding two out of two Dell DJs used batteries that were more than a year old. Lithium Ion and Lithium Poly batteries have a shelf life and you can buy older batteries for much less.

We didn't see any evidence of this is Apple or Rio players.

We also found that iPods had better audio sections than the competition. It seems the market leader really is the best player

As per the "only" 100k comment. Hitachi is having issues ramping their HD production. 100k players represents everything Apple could buy from them. This should change in May/June when a new HD production line opens and Apple can crank their production.

George -February 23, 2004



Let's all just take a breath, calm down, and realize that Paul doesn't always know his head from his hiney.

Remember, this is the guy who said, "It's clear that the iTunes music store...is toast" when buymusic.com premiered its clunky overblown Windows-only WMA service.

Paul is no prognosticator. I'm sure he's a nice guy and all, but if you want an honest and objective look at the tech world, you'll have to move on, 'cuz there's nothing to see here.

Wendy Rebecca -February 23, 2004



This is just plain pitiful!

You guys may have gotten this hit from me but I gaurantee it will be the last ever.

What a total moron

Switched to Mac n Lovin' it! -February 23, 2004



So he gets traffic. This is entertainment (the feedback).

I found out yeterday that a coworkers parents was in the US (I'm in Canada) and they brought back a mini for her brother. No shortage of demand and the PC people all seem to know about it. We have the exchange rate to deal with too.

Tony -February 25, 2004



This is all to funny.

Me -February 26, 2004



I see why these days attempts at discourse of any kind is rather pointless, not only on the internet, but on TV, radio, and print media. Everyone is ready to attack anyone else whose opinion differs from theirs regardless of the subject. I realize Paul frequently pushes the Microsoft position, but I have to admit after trying all the formats, WMA is superior for a given file size yet Apple continues to pretend it doesn't exist. And players of considerably larger capacities are offered (Dell, for one)for the same or lower price. So why don't you all for once argue with facts and ideas (for a change) instead of emotions and "feelings"? It appears Apple continues to bring up the rear for the simple reason it hasn't learned yet how to be competitive.

Sam -February 27, 2004



Sam, are you on crack? This isn't about quality or any sort of evangelism. This is about reality. The iPod Mini is outselling the iPod. The iPod is the bestselling mp3 player ever. So how is that off to a slow start?

Paul Compares iPod numbers to the best selling computer ever. He doesn't compare them to the best selling mp3 player ever, he doesn't comapre it to the Dell, the Samsung, or any of the Rio players... Why? Because the Mini is outselling all of these competitive devices.

That is why we are all laughing at him and ridiculing him.

He knows that what he is saying is retarded twaddle. Trust us.

Blam -March 2, 2004



http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/internetlife/2004-03-05-mini_x.htm

Moo!

MCCFR -March 5, 2004



Your article said, "iPod Mini off to slow start". That seems in contrast to what the new and Apple's rapidly increasing stock price is reflecting. See following exerpt from cbsmarketwatch.com:

"Shares of Apple (AAPL) rallied 7.5 percent Friday, and reached a 52-week high of $27.49, after a report in USA Today said the company's new iPod mini digital music player has been a runaway success. The paper said the mini iPod is virtually sold-out, with nearly 100,000 snapped up since its launch two weeks ago. The player sells for $249, holds around 1,000 songs and is the size of a business card."

cbsmarketwatch.com 3/5/04

Randall Olson -March 5, 2004



USA Today 3/5/04:

"Apple has a smash hit on its hands with the new iPod mini digital music player. The little cousin of the full-size iPod is virtually sold out after less than two weeks in stores...I've never seen a product line sell like this," says Jack Wahrman, senior merchandising manager at New York's J&R Music World. "The iPod is a phenomenon...Consumers have a different view on pricing," says Mike McGuire, an analyst with tech research firm GartnerG2 and a mini owner himself. "When you actually see it and feel it, it's amazing. It's the size of a cool little mobile phone and really compelling...The demand is incredible," says Wahrman at J&R, who had 25 of the silver minis left in stock Thursday. Best Buy and Amazon, on their Web sites, said they were sold out. Savvy entrepreneurs were auctioning minis on eBay with starting bids ranging from $299 to $310."

Complete article: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/webguide/internetlife/2004-03-05-mini_x.htm

Mac Daddy -March 5, 2004



Early indications are that iPod mini, which garnered more than 100,000 preorders since being announced in January, is outdoing the success of the original iPod, which sold 125,000 units in its first quarter of availability, Apple said.

"The customer response has been incredible -- it's just been off the charts," Apple worldwide iPod marketing manager Danika Cleary told TechNewsWorld. "It's meeting and exceeding our expectations."

Jack M. -March 5, 2004



It's now official - the people that run this site (I hope as a hobby) are fools. They should stick to commenting on MS products, what due to their MS blinders on and all..

My predictions : 1. Apple will also take over digital video in 2004/2005 (as it has with digital audio); 2. 2004 will be the beginning of a large reduction in market share for MS products - the Xbox has been a huge failure so far (3rd out of 3 in sales) and MS is currently using Mac G5's for predevelopment work for the next Xbox! 3. IBM will gain market share in microprocessors at the expense of Intel, with a more powerful offering and faster improvements over the next few years.

It is also interesting that MS is partnering with Disney, a sinking ship, on digital video - this is actually bad news for MS because Disney has made mostly horrible business decisions over the past years (recently lost PIXAR, a large share of Disney revenues) - so bad they had to shake up their management and board. And, MS is reportedly working with another sinking ship - Napster (bleeding money like mad), to try to get people to use their WMA codec, HAHAHA.

MS should stick to making office suites and continue to spend their money convincing Windows users that the their next OS is actually going to be innovative and sercure (LMAO). The fact that 'Longhorn', an OS that is promised by 2006, is being compared to the existing Mac OSX should concern MS investors and analyists. Sell your shares this year MS holders or get burned. People are getting fed up the Beast called Micro-soft. It's a good thing they have 53 Billion in the bank, they are going to need it.

Wow -March 5, 2004



I like making stories up, too! It's fun, watch! Paul Thurrot has won the Nobel Prize in the category of "People who are not idiots!" See? Lying and being an idiot is easy.

RHeise -March 5, 2004



Paul Thurrot is just RIPE to write 10-15 more negatively biased articles about Apple Computer products.

RIPE -March 5, 2004



Haha you suckers. I knew you mac heads would forward my story to all your little mac head friends.. I'm still getting traffic off this and all the referrers are like macwebsitethis.com macwebsitethat.com.. talk about free advertising. oops did I say that out loud? Go back to clicking your hockey puck mice.

Paul Thurrott -March 5, 2004



Paul Thurrott I really have no clue what makes you so stupid, but I can clearly see that it works.

Legend -March 6, 2004



Well, all the comments before me, have spoke from my heart. I have only one thing to tell this not informed guy. "$250 is just too much scratch for what is essentially a tiny 4GB hard disk" what he tells is a piece of crap, because this 4GB drive built in the iPod Mini is worth 500$.. So what you say now Mr."I dont know nothing" Thurottt?

AppleKing -March 7, 2004



Hockey puck mice haven't been around in years jackass. You call yourslef a journalist? Boy you were way wrong on the mini-iPod weren't you? Fool.

me -March 8, 2004



Bill Palmer wrote: Paul Thurrott is a massive tool.

I might be a massive tool but the one between my legs surely isn't.

Paul Thurrott -March 8, 2004



hey the ipod mini sold out! it's on all the news pages. Hey guys ,forget about this article I wrote here, OK? Please?

paul thurrot -March 8, 2004



Hey look everyone, it's Paul Thurrott in a back ally, wanking himself off to images he found of the Dell DJ. Better hurry and finish, you don't wanna miss your short-bus to Microcrap 101. Tard!

You're not very thorough . . . are you Mr. Thurrott. Maybe we should call you "Mr. Thorough" instead. Kind of like how one calls a fat guy slim, or tiny.

Peeping Tom -March 12, 2004



Hey Sean, you jackass, delete the folder and turn those services off then!!!!!! Oh right, you don't know jack about computers - well, pull up your START menu, select RUN, type MSCONFIG then click OK, on the pop-up box select services, find the Apple service that eats up a whopping 3.2MB of RAM and uncheck the box- (are you running Windows 95 with 64MB of RAM? you must be if you are worried about 3.2MB of RAM lol so, get a new computer because your hardware is ancient - and can't even be used with any iPod - plus Microsoft didn't even make a decent OS until XP!) Any, I repeat ANY MP3 player/software combination is going to use services and RAM dumbass. That also goes for any media player software! Yesh, you should stick to tunin' up your '72 Pinto.

Tony -March 25, 2004



I guess it took about a month to break out of that slow start Rob. Looks like it was Hitachi that anticipated a slow start by not having enough drives ready.

http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1079419935542&p=1012571727117

lantzn -March 26, 2004



http://stocks.internetnews.com/article.php/3331531

Stocksurge -March 26, 2004



And it looks like Paul Thurott was all WRONG... mini sales have exploded since he wrote this idiotic article.

Way ta go Paul... what's next, you're gonna gargle peanut butter? =D

Smarter Than Thurott -September 30, 2004



100,000 pre orders is alot, imean.

Nicman -October 3, 2004



100,000 pre orders is nothing! i went to my local Target, and, they were sold out before they had their first order in! Same goes with the circuit city...

Nicman -October 3, 2004



Does anyone want to give me a free ipod? Cos im not gonna pay that much for one! They are a huge rip off and they are soooooo tiny. Don't you agree???

Rose -April 12, 2005



20 euro

emils -October 28, 2008



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